George Foreman Says He Was Drugged Before Ali Fight

No one here knows whether Foreman was drugged in that fight or not.
Foreman says he was. He was there. He denies it periodically but always returns to it.
Sugar Ray Robinson was at ringside and he said he thought Foreman was drugged.
He had much more credibility in his observances of fights and fighters than anyone here.
It would have been very easy for Saddler to have done it. It would not have been a major clandestine operation. He could have simply have dropped something in Foreman's water bottle before the fight.
We know for a fact that Foreman immediately fired Saddler after the fight and Saddler went to work for Ali.

The only rational position for any of us to take is that it could have happened but we don't know.

 

Another content free response BF. So the Ego takes refuge in acting smug so you do not appear bothered by my truth telling, & project that same attiutude upon me! Take a bemused pose if you like, you already tried name calling, it is fine with me either way.

I am confident you absorbed the message & it will likely have some future impact.

BillB you do make a good case re: it is possible.
That does not mean it is likely, but I cannot say it is highly unlikely or ceru implausible.
Though the heat, Foreman's psychological state, Ali hanging on him in the heat certainly would account for his showing.

Now if he was really drugged & it had a significant impact, that would completely preclde the judgement of some that he would have beaten any other HW that night.

 

Foreman thought he might have been drugged after he lost to Ali. Klitschko thought he might have been poisoned after he lost to Brewster. I've watch the tape of both fights multiple times and they are eerily similar. Two gigantic dudes just wailing away, gassing, then their over matched underdog opponent throws a couple of punches and knocks them down for the count. Simple as that.

 

That is most likely. The Ego often does not want to accept fault or defeat.

 

I feel sorry for the people you try and "help" with your "wisdom" in real life. You must be a super pain in the ass for them. Analyze that asshat.

 

That's the way I saw those two fights also.

Foreman in particular just punched himself out. He was used to getting his opponents out of there inside a few rounds and had rarely gone into the 8th where Ali took him. Ali weathered a substantial the storm and once he realised Foreman had gassed, hit the pedal and just took him out.

People can speculate all they like about any number of things. But without proof, that's all it is, speculation.

 

foreman would of beat him if a rematched happened.

 

Easy to say. Truth is we'll never know.

Ali proved he could withstand the best George had and still have enough left himself to get George out of there. That much we do know.

 

There's no doubt the hammering Ali copped from Foreman took its toll. Who in their right mind would line up for more of that when they had other options?

 

Ali was far enough post peak that Foreman would be favored in a rematch. Though on Duggerman's ranch it was pointed out how psyched out Foreman was, so it is possible Ali could have taken him again.

BF you have no substance even behind your speculative insult about me.
You have retreated into juvenile name calling again.
This is sad, but with time & social pressure & you seeing the problems it will cause you-& not wanting to be as simplistic & crude as possible due to positive ego & nascent principle...

You may well grow & change. I assume you are very young, more reason for hope.

 

Brewster was getting dominated though before Wlad gassed.

Ali was landing the cleaner punches to the head throughout the whole fight. Ali actually probably landed more clean shots in any one of the first 5 rounds, than he did in round 6 or 7.

Klitschko-Brewster 1 was more similar to Izon-Jefferson.

 

Ali would have an even easier time with the mentally ****ed Foreman after the Rumble.

 

Wow you are ******ed. Ok lets talk substance then. Obviously I am a Foreman fan. But to assume I have a blind dislike for all of his opponents is completely wrong. I have nothing but respect for Young and Holyfield, two men that beat him. I think Tommy Morrison had a huge heart but was an out of control *******, even if somewhat talented as a top level fighter. Smokin Joe was a class act and one hell of a swarmer type fighter. I dont care for Alis behavior one bit, i think he acted like an *******, yes he was talented but in many ways had no class. I think Tyson was explosive and Talented but lazy, i do not care for him as a person, feel he was overrated as a fighter and know Foreman would have kicked his ass. Besides being an awesome fighter with a storied carrier, and being able to fight remarkably well as an old man, Foreman represented his country like a real man, in stark contrast to Ali who was a blatant racist along with being a loudmouth idiot.

So your goboldy gook mish mash bable about me is bull****, THATS why you are an ASSHAT. Get it?

 

1) You keep up the babyish name calling you will get banned.
This is not name calling. It is acting like a brittle child in the street to call names & curse when someone does nothing like this to you, just calls you on abusive conduct.

2) Now your comment about not hating all of his opponents finally showed me something. Though I did not say this in what you quoted, that is a fair point.
However I had not blincly assumed; I was going by what you had posted that was often hateful. Glad you are more discerning than that-at other times.

3) I agree wiith much of what you wrote.
Except Holyfield clearly used PEDs & had personal hypocracies.
Tyson was not at all lazy in his prime.
And he was legitimately great at his peak.
A tremendous combination of power, speed, techniique & defense, THEN he did not fold.

I have rated Foreman above him due to styles head to head.
Though given the speed discrepency, I am not at all sure.
It is folly to be so sure.

4) Ali was a "real man" in standing up for his principles & not going to Vietnam.
The other critiques of him I have expressed myself at length.
He also had great charisma, courage & a very good side too, He contains great contradictions.

5) Foreman I loved in his comeback.
Though he did dodge a bunch of fighters who were too good, mostly due to speed, for him then.

There are reports that his nice guy image is an act.
That is likely too extreme, he seems to have had genuine reform internalized, yet I do not think completely banished a Dark Side.

 

Good point on Evander.
Ali, I will hand it to him, he had amazing hand speed and footwork. Iron Jaw. Id say that he hit like a middleweight to cruiserweight depending on what point in his career we are talking about. I have issues with his character. The guy was blatently racist, listen to him speak. He treated his oponents like dirt, especially joe frazier and tried to make FOTC into some sort of stupid racial battle, rambling about Joe being some sort of uncle Tom, when Joe was a great, Humble Champion with serious horsepower in that hook. Ali made everything into a circus. I guess it made people watch but people watch WWF, is that high class? Ali was no gentleman, much of the time he acted like a circus clown.