George Foreman Versus Alexander Povetkin

Young George beats Povetkin and the Older version loses

 

Sounds like you're ducking the fact an obese middleweight made it into the top 5 in modern day boxing

Define super heavyweight.

Mathis was always naturally huge and that fat didn't hinder his hand speed whatsoever, so the criticism is invalid. F=ma, or are we only going to appeal to physics when it fits the agenda

 

James Toney is naturally much smaller than Mathis, looked much fatter despite weighing less, yet still made his way to a top 5 ranking at heavyweight because size is overrated and yet you're still here. The sample size of super heavyweights dominating top 10 cruiserweights doesn't even outweigh the inverse massively. These modern athletes are overrated and nased on recent evidence you probably get mixed results if all the historical eras fight eachother

All your own opinion. Many would call Ibeabuchi a super heavyweight. Weight classes not height classes. Super heavyweight is an official distinction for the ametures and most are skinny anyway unles they put on fat or muscle. No body is the same. You have drastic genetic differences and builds across humanity and within races. Mathis was just naturally fat as hell, he was much bigger earlier on and that fat didn't hinder his speed, skill and footwork at the top level so the functional weight is still 240+ pounds. Keep grasping.

 

Vitali is a massive super heavyweight

 

Mathis was actually extremely talented and I believe he made the Olympic Team back when it was a huge deal and amateur boxing had alot of competition.

 

What is,with the size thing? I can point to numerous times when a much smaller heavy beat up a much larger heavy.
Christ Usky vs Fury is a classic example.

 

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Vitali is much taller and already a very large super heavyweight compared to others. Parker is a super heavyweight and objectively weighed more than Vitali when he fought Bakole but Vitali still looks bigger to me.

 

Yes, Parker is a super heavyweight. Why wouldn't he be ? Is it just 6'5+ guys to you ? I can understand where your coming from but It's semantics at a point

Vitali has a much bigger frame than both Parker and Mathis, but Mathis is still a 6'3 and has a massive frame compared to the vast majority of the global population, he was never a natural cruiserweight let alone a middleweight and he carried the fat well, he was faster than anyone today bar Parker and Usyk, and imo more skilled than Parker.

Plus weight is weight, thats why Toneys obese ass at 5'10 could compete at heavyweight and get a high ranking because it didn't significantly hinder his ability and the barrier of size is commonly breached in boxing. This is an objective fact, Toney had elite skills but 0 mobility and would be a short heavyweight even in the 1970s. Mathis is naturally bigger than Kabayel who bullied Zhang

 

Povetkin has a chance if Foreman goes in with no respect at all, he could set Foreman up for something devastating, however, if Foreman sticks that jab, applies pressure with attacks set up with the jab, goes the the body with that clubbing rights, and slips in those uppercuts and times Povetkin’s head movement with them, getting him into position with that lead and watches out for the left hook of Povetkin, which Foreman always was always able to neutralise by dipping slightly or stepping back and crossing his arms.

The better long punches of Foreman would take it, and the willingness to them then go with power would get the better as Povetkin tries to get in, but gets punished as Foreman throws big, well timed punches from range, punishing Povetkin when he comes in, and Foreman was able to see returns coming and deflect them and not get hit clean.

Foreman is well suited to defeat Povetkin, and would take him out in a great fight.

 

Yes i do, he's just a naturally heavy set/stout human being. He wouldn't look out of shape compared to modern heavyweights

 

Yet big and strong Parker still has problems with little 213 pound Jack Massey who Opetaia oblitered. Yet again size is overrated

As a matter of fact, Toney ate his way into the top 5 and he's naturally way smaller than Mathis. Whatever point you're trying to prove is frankly irrelevant at this stage, and to the question. Mathis tried to use that weight to lean on Frazier several times and 240 pounds is still 240 pounds when you're trying to push someone around or clinch, Mathis also had exceptional speed that could carry that weight no problem. Skill is also more important than weight past 200 pounds, it's why Michael Hunter schooled Super heavyweight Bakole.

Foreman KOs Povetkin BTW. Povetkin can't fight off the backfoot, Foreman can