George Foreman vs Jose Roman

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  1. superman1986

    superman1986 Active Member banned Full Member

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    I'm just not convinced it matters one way or another unless one is arguing that if not for that punch, Roman would have won or got up to give Foreman hell. And if one is arguing that I insist that they show their work.
     
  2. Longhhorn71

    Longhhorn71 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Roman insisted upon the 17-ft ring to used, just to be sure he had the minimum places he
    could "hide".
     
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  3. Cecil

    Cecil Boxing Addict Full Member

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    George always appeared to be a moody and surly character in those days, but appears to be even more that way towards Roman.
    Did Roman say something before the fight to annoy George who literally looked as though he's trying to take Joe's head off, he was really wild in there!
    Anyway Roman shouldn't have been allowed in the same town as Foreman never mind a boxing ring.
     
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  4. Longhhorn71

    Longhhorn71 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    From Boxing News article:
    September 1, 2014 Matt Christie
    On This Day: George Foreman batters the hopeless Jose “King” Roman in a round
    Matt Christie tells the tale of one of the quickest knockouts in heavyweight history:
    1. GEORGE FOREMAN, fresh off an astonishing and brutal victory over Joe Frazier, made the first defence of his world heavyweight title against unfancied Puerto Rican Jose Roman on September 1, 1973. The bout was set for Nihon Budokan in Tokyo, Japan.

    2. THE underdog annoyed Foreman in the build-up, belittling and insulting the champion, while promising to score the upset. The week before the fight he told reporters he would be too quick for the powerful champion, and some observers predicted that Roman’s courage could see him frustrate Foreman and last to the late stages.

    3. TEN bells were rung before the fight in memory of Joe Frazier’s manager, Yancey Durham, who had passed away earlier in the week.
    4. FOREMAN was led to the ring by a Dixieland band, and two Playboy bunnies presented the fighters with bouquets of flowers. Roman sang along gleefully to his country’s national anthem – a contrast to the cold stare adopted by the favourite.
    5. SOME 8,000 fans packed into the Hall to see if Roman’s promises could be fulfilled. But his challenge was a disaster. Lacking the spite of his predictions, the challenger started tentatively and his jabs fell short of the target. Foreman’s desire to punish Roman was evident from the opening bell as he came out blazing.
    6. FOREMAN did not stop throwing punches, many were wild and inaccurate but enough landed to bully Roman to the ropes and he collapsed on his backside under the force. Then came the controversy. With Roman on the canvas, Foreman unleashed a right hand that collided with his rival’s face. Roman’s manager Bill Daly and trainer Al Braverman – cotton buds behind his ears and a ragged combover dangling on his head – jumped on to the ring apron to remonstrate with referee Jay Edson.
    7. EDSON did not count the incident as a knockdown but did not punish Foreman either. “Foreman hit him as he was going down,” the referee would explain. “By not counting and allowing Roman to get up, in my opinion that was punishment enough for Foreman. It took the play away from him. You cannot stop the momentum of a punch in the middle of a flurry unless you’re a magician. But I gave Roman eight to 10 seconds to recover.”
    8. IT was not enough time for the outclassed challenger. Foreman stalked menacingly, and a looping uppercut landed flush that sent Roman down, legally this time. He got to his feet but was dazed and confused when he rose, allowing Foreman to plot the finishing blast. It came via a brutal right to the body. Roman, a crumpled mess, was counted out.
    9. ALTHOUGH Roman was not expected to win, his efforts were a disappointment to the fans, some of whom paid £71 for ringside seats. Foreman – paid handsomely with a $1million cheque – was booed by fans as he left the ring. Roman called his conqueror the “dirtiest fighter in the world.” He added: “He should never hit a fellow while he is down. He pushed me down and began to hit me while I complaining to the referee.”
    10. FOREMAN’S victory cleared the way for potential bouts with Muhammad Ali, Ken Norton, or a rematch with Frazier. “None of them need to start screaming,” Foreman’s manager Dick Sadler said about the queue of suitors. “We’ll get to all of them in good time.”
     
  5. Longhhorn71

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    King Roman interview Pre-fight:
    USA: Panoramic View of New York City and Central Park. Interview with boxer Jose Roman. Images in the gym training for the fight with George Foreman (USA) for the world title in the heavyweight category to be held on September 1.
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  6. Big Ukrainian

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    It was like AJ vs Molina. Weak challenger who had zero chance of being competitive.
     
  7. Big Ukrainian

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    Lennox Lewis cheated vs Michael Grant. The fighter he would've KTFO'd without fouls.

    Still the KO punch landed when Lewis was holding Grant's head with his left.

    Should LL have been DQ'd in that case or not? Your opinion?

    Just look at it at 8:40. It's a blatant foul:

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  8. JohnThomas1

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    Foreman was frightening around this time. So forceful.
     
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  9. Hayemakers

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    Scariest boxer i have ever seen. He really looked like he wanted to kill Roman.
     
  10. mcvey

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    The argument is whether there was controversy over the finish and there most definitely was!
     
  11. Wass1985

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    I don't get the complaining, Tyson did it plenty of times plus he always hit people after the bell. Do you realise how hard it was for Foreman to stop those cannons mid-swing.......
     
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  12. JackSilver

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    When you are a knock out artist, fighting dirty to help get the KO comes with the territory.
     
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  13. JohnThomas1

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    I haven't watched every round of every Tyson fight. Plenty of times would mean three or more, what fights would you put forth for me to check out? I definitely remember one time Tyson whacking a guy as he bounced back off the ropes on his way down.
     
  14. Unforgiven

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    Yeah, these guys are "killers". They have the killer instinct. They maintain disciple to a certain extent but sometimes they can't stop themselves.
    Foreman's foul on Roman was bad. Roman was sat on his ass.
    I remember Tyson almost got one in on Tony Tubbs who was already horizontal. LOL. Fortunately he missed.
    These guys are killers.
     
  15. Unforgiven

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    More than a couple of those knockdowns were fouls, if I remember rightly.