George Foreman vs Lennox Lewis

By adding more mass, by gaining experience and in Foreman's case, by learning how to keep your balance, how to keep a tight guard and actually have a defense. These things all matter. And we saw that as Foreman was never floored again. I'm not saying that his chin was weak earlier on, but there's only so much you can take, especially with that wild, uncontrolled and open style of his.

 

These are all valid points, but what do they have to do with you're intial statement about his having an improved chin later? I will once again ask, how does a chin improve?

 

Well IMO he obviously means George was more resistent to a stoppage second career.

 

There are many things that contribute to resilience to punishment. Stamina, conditioning, age, defensive skills, mental resolve,etc. Chris's statement however is that Foreman's chin was better at a later stage in life. One possible theory that Chris may have is that the bone density of Foreman's chin may have thickened as a result of his calcium intake from all the ice cream he loved to eat, but frankly I have my doubts.

 

As JT pointed out, chin is just a name for the ability to take a punch, which is exactly what i was alluding to. Due to several reasons pointed out earlier, Foreman's "chin" improved in the sense that he could take a much better shot without going down. :good

 

Not necessarily. When a fighter gets nailed on right on the jaw area or on the chin and is KO'd, his chin is in question, and is deemed as having a glass chin. Jerry Quarry was prone to being stopped on cuts, yet he was known to have a decent chin.


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Foreman put on some mass, and greatly developed his defensive skills, resulting in his abilty to stay on his feet, but that has nothing to do with a change in a fighter's chin

Below is a definition for you,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chin_(boxing)

 

Yes, but the point is that when you brace yourself for a shot, are in the correct stance, or roll with the punch, etc, you can take a better shot on the chin than when you've just missed a wild swing, are off balance and a hard right uppercut hits you unseen on the chin.


But ok, to make things clear, i will say that Foreman was a lot more durable in his career than in his first. And this thread was about the Foreman who fought Norton/Ali, which is the lesser durable one. So no, i wouldn't be suprised if Lewis finished what Lyle started or if Lewis finishes when Foreman is exhausted a la Young / Ali.

 

Funny, I have a Ring magazine article at home claiming Lewis would beat Foreman in about 6 rounds. I'll post it later.

 

Clarification, guys: Frank Lotierzo, a boxing writer who once collaborated here in fact, was responding in the piece I posted to the Ring Magazine article "50 Greatest Fights You Never Saw."

 

Which makes sense because I have this edition at home and the results and the analysis were basically the complete opposite of his.

 

The first hard shot George lands ,Its over.

 

I think George would take him....Gerge has a better chin and has been down and gotten back up,when Lewis went down he usually stayed there...And George was not knocked out by Ali he was beat into exhaustion...