George Foreman Vs Rocky Maricano

I'm trying my hardest guys but I just don't see Rocky taking this one. It was clever boxers who gave George his toughest fights and Marciano is not a clever boxer. Rocky is a come forward puncher, a pressure fighter with great stamina. The kind of fighter that gives a boxer nightmares. Foreman is a very large, very strong clubber with a granite chin and a very good jab when he chooses to use it. When you add up each fighters style, strengths and weaknesses Foreman comes out on top. Rocky's only chance is to survive long enough until George gasses out. He's not going to outbox him from the outside with movement and a stinging jab. He's going to have to get close enough to do damage with those very short arms and that's problematic against a man the size of Foreman. His overall dimensions make it very difficult for him I think. I don't see Rocky blowing George out of there early but I see George doing it to Rocky if he lands consistently enough. Take them both at thier best as both had bad fights...When I see Rocky flailing away at Cockell before finally stopping him I shudder to think what would happen if you substituted Foreman for that overblown middleweight. Puts things in perspective a bit wouldn't you agree?

 

marciano would have met george head on, he would certainly have shaky early moments but since he always fired back rocky would survive then george would get tired and frustrated. things would even up prety quick. there is no guarantee foreman lands first, he would land. both would.

george would shove marciano back but rocky would go low where it would be harder to shove him off entirely. there would be a lot of smothering and tangles like the rex layne and foreman v lyle fights. both would land for sure. both missed punches against boxers who used range. there would be no range in this fight at all. perhaps power could be neutralised with so much inside work, then it becomes a strugle for george.

This fight is not easy for either man. perhaps it would be more clear cut for foreman if he beat up on more rated guys before he won the title. then we could say george has the pedigree to count on. truth is both carnations of big george were flawed and lacking in important areas, we cannot make an exception for a guy who was only 3-2 in big fights first time around during his peak.

I cannot accept that a matchup between top ten heavyweights could ever be easy fights or mismatches.

I accept that it is fair to predict foreman v leon spinks would be a mismatch but not foreman v marciano.

 

And Marciano got dropped and hurt by lesser punchers at heavyweight. You are delusional. It's not a knock on Marciano as a great, but Foreman is completely wrong for him. No swarming heavyweight beat's Foreman, let alone a guy who's 185-190 at his best. Marciano would be destroyed within 2 or 3 rounds.

 

jersey joe walcott and archie moore hit a whole lot harder than ali and young. perhaps Moore and walcott flattened more rated heavyweights than george foreman?

 

I think you confuse marciano with a blindfolded weakling. I think you confuse foreman with king kong.

 

that against george you thiink marcinao would be pathetic. As if he were as harmless to foreman as a blindfolded weakling.

you give an ATG zero credit.

 

Four or five times in the first round of this one Foreman gets nailed by the right hand and the not huge 200lb Gullick definately gets his attention - in fact Gullick spends the majority of the round pressing Foreman back - doesn't look in the least bit over powered - Foreman spends most of his time apart from the last 20 seconds pawing away like a blindman feeling around in the dark and continually trying to push off Gullick to a less troublesome distance - Foreman really didn't know how to fight inside at all he really didn't - he just really relied on his bludgeoning winging shots to crush everything in his path when fights really weren't going his way

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again a fight against Chuvalo where George is by no means over powering his man - again infact Chuvalo spends a good deal of time toe to toe with Foreman or working him backwards - Chuvalo's body shots especially have Foreman jumping back to try to avoid being hit with them about the sides

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by way of mild comparison here is that same Chuvalo being slugged backward by light heavyweight Yvon Durelle - admitedly before getting blown away himself but you get my point - people really see Foreman as this monster that no one can survive but people weren't always being crushed throughout fight against him - sure he did have that 'brutality' to fall back on when things weren't going his way but enough fighters could hang with him for long enough who weren't really a sniff of the calibre of the great Rocky Marciano

 

How about looking at how Dempsey was floored three times and saved his title by a gift over Luis Firpo as a real barometer of how this plays out ... Dempsey's biggest weakness as a fighter, to me, was that he was not the smartest ... when he got tagged he saw red and by reflex and instinct he brawled ... against the strong and hard hitting Firpo who was raw as hell and did not know how to even throw a jab he managed to survive ... against Foreman he would be decapitated .. if Lester Johnson broke his ribs Foreman would fracture his spine ... Jack Dempsey was not going to outslug George Foreman. No way ...

 

jeez that was a tirade and a half!? Where did that come from?! And how did we jump from Marciano to Dempsey all of a sudden? but you kind of make my point H - no fighter was as completely and comprehensively infallible as some make certain fighters (Foreman in this case) out to be - they forget that when you go back and watch the films that he wasn't the all conquering king kong for even most of the fight - even against sub standard or much smaller and less powerful opposition - he did get pushed back and out fought a good deal of the time (against much lower calibre fighters than Marciano) - his pure hammer strength was his get out of jail card when he had little else to fall back on - still don't quite understand where the Dempsey vitriol was fired up from tho?