George Foreman Vs Rocky Maricano

It's a fantasy fight, throw whatever you want in the trash.

I believe Frazier was overconfident and ill prepared, he showed no respect for Foreman in the first fight and paid the price. He was target practice. A completely shot Frazier had defensive success in the rematch by bobbing and weaving before running out of gas.

I'm not sure Frazier could ever beat Foreman, but the motivated fighter from 71 would have likely gave a better accoutant of himself.

 

That was the point. :nut

 

Defensive success? He did not win a round.

 

Foreman beat Forte dropping him in the process .Bonavena dropped Frazier twice and had him on ***** street.I don't see the similarity.

 

I gave him two of the four completed rounds, Rounds 2 and 4, he was making Foreman miss badly and countering witih good shots. I gave Foreman Round 1 but he was mostly swinging at air, Frazier just didn't do enough offensively for me to give him the round. Round 3 was a strong round for George.

Frazier not winning a round is hyperbole that just doesn't ring true.

Here's the Gazette which doesn't offer an official scorecard but mentions specifically that Fraizer appeared to edge Round 2, and mentions Frazier's success in Round 4. So my opinion isn't exactly an abnormality.

[url]http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=yn0xAAAAIBAJ&sjid=vaEFAAAAIBAJ&pg=4036,107947&dq=joe+frazier+george+foreman+closed+circuit&hl=en[/url]

 

The point of the post should be obvious. I can't elobrate any further.

 

I think that is a fair assessment. Frazier even if he didn't win the rounds was very competitive in round three and four if my memory serves me.

I think he may have performed better against Foreman at his peak but still would lose. I think Marciano would lose to Foreman as well. Foreman was just a lot bigger and stronger than most heavies that preceded him. The size of heavies jumped from the first half of the century much like it jumped again with Lewis and the K2 brothers.

 

I guess my memory didn't serve me lol. So it was two and four.

 

Thank you. I believe Frazier won Rounds 2 and 4. And he gave a good effort in 1 and 3.

I believe Foreman should be favored, but the "Foreman beats any swarmer" blanket needs to be ruffled from time to time.

 

What you gave him is irrelevant and immaterial , the cold fact is he did not win a round in either fight. Anything else is hyperbole.

 

Cool story.

 

I used to think as a youngster that Foreman could beat Rocky but having watched a lot more foreman over the years, especially peak foreman you simply have to give Marciano a serious chance.

A lot of people give bob Satterfield a punchers chance against anyone on his two handed punch power alone. Marciano had this as well as the chin, desire, awkward subtle skills, strength to eclipse the one chance bob would bring.

one dimensional chuvalo albeit strong, could never get out of the way,had one hand, was easier to read, much easier to hit and was actually still in his fight with foreman for a round. As a comparison to how far away chuvalo was to marcianos level remember that chuvalo lost to about 4 guys an older archie moore beat.

And this was the one guy Foreman beat to get his ranking. George was so green. Fought like an ape then.

There is a lot of evidence that marcinao would do very well against the best of george foreman, especialy given his size.

 

The more I read regarding this match the more I find myself thinking maybe Marciano would do better than I previously thought. For the record I still pick Foreman but I'm not so sure it would be the blowout I thought it would be. I recently watched some of Foremans pre title fights and came away with the belief that Marciano might be a little more trouble than many think he would be. Foreman's fights with the likes of Peralta, Pires and later in his career Quawi point the fact that you didn,t have to necessarily be a dancing master ala Ali to get out of the way of Foreman's blows nor did you have to be tall with a long reach to get to him. If you could stay in the pocket and avoid his swings, you could fire back and bother him. I did my homework on Foreman I guess you could say and that is why I'm ammending my previous post a bit. Like I said I still favor George against Rocky but Marciano could actually use his height, or lack of it to his advantage at times. A few good body shots and a winging right to the chin might make George think twice about recklessey winging blows at Rocky. Plus Rocky's crouch and slight dip to his right might make him a more difficult target to hit. If Quawi could reach Foreman with surprisingly regularity then I fail to see why Rocky couldn't as well. I think George would be better off pacing himself behind his pile driving jab to set up his shots instead of winging them and possibly gassing against a proven 15 round fighter. I admit I gave Marciano little chance in my earlier post, but after doing more research on this matchup I think he'd do better than I initially thought. Not win mind you but give a better accounting of himself.

 

Seems a mismatch to be fair. Poor rocky doesn't have a chance in hell here.

 

While I entertain the possibility that Marciano could very well beat Liston for reasons stated on another thread I find this match up to be out of Marciano's reach. Marciano had a better chin and better two fisted power than Frazier but he was around 17lbs lighter and shorter. Watch the way George moves Joe with the force of his blows and in the rematch Foreman , he pushes Joe backwards at least two steps effortlessly. I could actually see Rocky falling down backwards from those shoves. Not that, that is legal or determines a fight but I get the feeling Rocky may be pushed around in this match like a pin ball. If Rocky could survive until George gasses than maybe but I don't see it.