George Foreman Vs Rocky Maricano

Ok folks. Granted George beat Ted Gullick but please watch the first round of this fight. Ted closes the gap and finds George's chin with the kind of openings that could be dangerous against Marciano. I accept George is an overwhelming Favorite against rocky, George has all the advantages apart from seasoning and pace but this footage at least shows it would be far from easy for George against Marciano on this performance. If George does not show Rockys power enough respect he would get knocked out.


http://m.youtube.com/index?desktop_uri=/&gl=GB#/watch?v=8N5v5Ry0rD4

 

:rofl

 

Ted Gullick had nothing in common that I saw with Rocky Marciano. In fact his style was actually described by people as being more like Joe Louis. Looking at that first round, Gullick was using the ring and firing off the jab more than Rocky likely would have. And Foreman looked like he was taking his time and feeling him out before going in for the kill in round two. Gullick was also 6'0", 200 lbs and a muscular specimen. I don't see the comparison .

 

Haven't read all of them, but probably true.

 

I'm a great fan of all the heavyweight champions I, would term swarmer's. These would include Dempsey, Marciano, Frazier and Tyson. I just believe that no fighter of this type could ever defeat a prime Foreman. I think Foreman may have been the strongest of all the heavyweight champions and arguably its biggest puncher.

 

No Gullick was 194lb. Rocky fought at 190lb against Johnny Shkor The year before he was champion. Ted was about the same height too. They say 6' 0" but he looks about the same kind of height as Frazier appeared along side George. If he was 6'0" he's what, an inch taller? I'm not splitting hairs.

Physically Ted is a simular height and weight to Marciano.

Gullick was no Joe Louis. He drew with Billy Aired and was knocked out by Terry Daniels even before facing Foreman. He threw an over hand right that George could not get out of the way of and managed to win the first round. Ted crouched and punched up. He weaved and came in low. At a simular size I think the tactics and weapons Ted used are well within Marciano's grasp.

People often say Tyrell Biggs showed in the first round of his fight with Mike Tyson how Ali might have got on with Tyson. Biggs still lost that fight too but it does not stop people using the example.

 

Biggs was an Ali imitator and an Olympic medalist. It's not much of a reach to use that for comparison.

Your comparison of Gullick to Marciano, is pretty abysmal.

 

Foreman by murder.

 

the funny thing is the only so called puncher the prime Foreman fought was Ron Lyle and to me Lyle was no puncher YET HE HAD FOREMAN on his ass 2x and hurt several times (in fact the ref could have stopped it in Lyle's favor) after Lyle was dominated by Jerry Quarry he could not stop a worn and weathered Jimmy Ellis (who was just KO'd in 1 by Shavers) Lyle won a SD over Wendell Newton and decisions over Lou Baily,D12 Gregorio Peralta,Joe Bugner,SD STAN Ward,went distance with Bob Stallings,Oscar Bonavena, most of these men other than the 2 Argentinians were being stopped pretty often at the time so where is Lyle's power?

I know the agenda minded like to make Lyle a Great puncher but the evidence is not there. Marciano fought big men but none in Foreman's league is one of the arguments put forward but prime and young George Foreman NEVER fought a puncher in Marciano's league

What would these big men do if hit by a puncher? forget size because size has been a variable that has changed with each era of modern EH advancement, in fact other than the Klitschko's and Lennox Lewis how many current heavyweights could not afford to lost 20-40lbs

 

Was Rocky really a bigger puncher than Frazier?

I don't think Rocky steamrolls Foster as easily as Frazier did.

 

is there an example of Rocky fighting quite the same guy as Foreman? Proberbly not. Foreman represented a world class powerhouse as big as the biggest guys Rocky fought. A unique kind. But Rocky did fight elements of some of the qualities George had. But not at the same time.

Nobody offered the strength of George. Joe Louis offered a simular size, others offered greater speed. Better defence. Rocky faced punchers but none that punched quite as hard. Rocky hit men that were a lot harder to hit than Foreman.

Rocky over came all of that and had nothing more to learn once reaching his prime. George was a work in progress even in his prime. I just think there is scope for Rocky here to win if George fights like he did in the Ted Gullick fight. The last live opponent George fought before winning the title.

Rocky doesn't have to be just like Ted Gullick, he just has to be a simular size, exploit the same openings and use the same punches Ted did.

 

Frazier was a one armed fighter and as a matter of styles most of the punches that dropped and KO'd Foreman were right hands, Rocky was a 2 fisted puncher, quite the opposite of Frazier and while Frazier may have had a left hook advantage over Ali because of styles Marciano had both the left hook and the right hand, in the case of Bob Foster even the small Doug Jones stopped him so I do not see a case of him lasting long with a puncher like Marciano, Bob did not adjust to heavyweights the way Archie Moore did.