George Foreman Vs Rocky Maricano

Gerry Cooney had 2 hands but who did he ever KO with the right hand and Frazier had 2 hands and who did he KO with the right hand? My namesake Bummy Davis was also a converted southpaw like Cooney and Frazier and he KO'd Bob Montgomery in the 1st rd but never KO'd anyone with the right hand thus a one-armed fighter. Marciano KO'd people with both hands

Lyle was the best puncher prime Foreman faced and he dropped Big G 2 x and staggered him many yet Lyle was a big man but not a puncher or finisher in Marciano's class so I am not sure how well Foreman would take a real punchers shot because he never had to and i can not be certain that Foreman would do to Marciano what he did to Frazier because Marciano was a right hand puncher and Foreman was KO'd and dropped by right hands. This fight would be a different fight.

 

I just watched the Foreman v Lyle fight both men swapped big punches you denying it just demolishes any credibilty you might have had.

Citing whom Lyle failed to stop is as relevant as me saying why didn't Marciano stop Lowry in two tries ,why did it take him 9rds to stop a flabby lhvy in ****ell? Lyle has 31 kos in 43 wins and over proper heavies, not blown up lhvys and old men.

 

I've asked him to admit that twice on the other Marciano thread but he sidesteps it.

What is it with people not being able to bring themselves to say, yes you're right I was wrong?:huh

 

I think I explained that when a fighter is called one handed it has to do with one arm being the primary weapon and when a fighter has never shown the ability to KO a man with the weaker arm they call him one armed. The key in this fight is that Marciano had 2 hands and Ko'd men with both hands while guys considered one-hand fighters have only Ko'd guys with the ONE ARM.

Foreman could very well KO Marciano but I feel that the hand that has shown to KO and drop Foreman in other fights(the RIGHT HAND) may perhaps make a big difference in this fight. my point being is that Marciano brings different weapons into this contest.

As far as Frazier,Cooney Bummy Davis,etc. these men were converted south paws and considered one-handed fighters because they only showed power in one hand.

I have the highest respect for Joe Frazier but he falls into the Strong arm-weak arm category by virtue of his KO record with the left hook and none with the right

 

you must be drinking MCVEY , what did you want me to admit that Marciano never KO'd a man cold, he certainly did Walcott,Layne,Vingo,to name a few

 

A beter phrase would have been to say Joe Frazier had "one handed power". For a puncher, Joe did not have two handed power in a knockout sense. Describing Joe Frazier as having "two handed power" would be more wrong than calling him "one handed".

Saying joe Frazier was one handed is a figure of speech. Of course joe had a right hand, but it was not his money shot. He was not knocking guys down with his right hand. Nobody feared it. It was adequate but it was not what he was about.

Joe Frazier, Jake LaMotta, Gerrie Cooney and Henry Cooper were all what I would call (as a figure of speech) "one arm bandits". They all had right hands and did each show examples of using a solid right but they were about utilising their over developed reliance on the left side. Orchestrating the positioning required to double up the left hand.

A fighter who has developed the ability to deliver a double power shot with the lead hand has a wonderful talent. He won't be looking to throw many single power shots off the rear hand. It is just how they are. Regardless if they are swarmers or boxer punchers having that ability will prevent them from relying on the single rear hand.

Joe's power shot was his lead hand, joe mostly used the right for momentum in a way a right handed fighter puts a left hook on the end of a one two. His right side was mostly used to pivot his left side. Turning back after the follow through with the dominant hand provides a strong punch from the weaker hand because the leverage and momentum comes from the other shoulder. Hence one handed power.

 

Rocky is a puncher sub 200, his power isn't proven above that.

 

Jack Dempsey KO'd men with the left and the right, so did Joe Louis and so did Marciano, Foreman and Vlad Klitschko. I can not think of any Frazier fights that he KO'd a man with the right hand or even floored them with an initial right hand, same goes for Cooney, Bummy Davis and others that are called one-armed fighters. This is a boxing term that has been around for years I didn't invent it and I think it always refers to a fighter with both arms and hands it just means that one hand is the primary weapon

I think that the right hand would be a big weapon against Foreman because this is the punch that has put him down and KO'd him in the past. Thus the difference between Marciano and Frazier as an opponent

 

No it is a figure of speech. A fighter with one handed power or one handed KNOCK OUT power can be described as a "one armed bandit" or "one handed fighter" even if they hit quite solidly with the lesser used hand. Joe's left hand over shadowed his right by some considerable degree. Yes he used both and hit solidly with the right but he was all about the left.

 

A fighter who can double up power shots off the lead hand is to be respected. All fighters are to be respected. I already said what a wonderful talent I think that is. Nobody ever said "a fighter who can only perform knockouts with the right hand" because I can only assume you think the reverse must be true about right handed orthodox fighters?

There are fighters who did not have much of a left and were famous for their Right like Ingo Johansson but of course being orthodox his power was in the rear hand so most right handed fighters have to utilise the front weaker hand more than a non southpaw left handed puncher. Therefore right handed fighters from an orthodox stance don't double up with their rear hand.