George Foreman Vs Rocky Maricano

Rocky had proven KO power against men his own size. How many times did he KO a 6'4, 220lb heavyweight champion with Foreman's durability? He needed many rounds of pounding to wear down smaller and less durable fighters than Foreman in Moore, Charles, Walcott, LaStarza and ****ell, all of whom were able to hit him often in return, and several had him hurt.

He's gonna need a helluva lot of right hands to take out Foreman, and he'll need a miracle to do it whilst surviving everything Foreman lands back.

 

look at Lyle's record,watch his fights he was a heavyweight and a muscular guy but he struggled to KO guys that being KO by others. He could punch like most heavyweights but I listed a group of guys that were being KO'd by others that Lyle struggled with. I am talking about a shot Jimmy Ellis (who I saw get Ko'd in 1 by Shavers) Wendell Newton SD, Bob Stallings,Lou Baily,all in the time frame they were getting KO'd

As far as Peralta I said he was the best fighter Foreman fought until Frazier and he did get stopped as a light-heavyweight, he was not a powerful guy and Foreman did not look good against him by the way he was nowhere in the class of Archie Moore, Ezzard Charles and you will puff up these guys but do not recognize the skill of the 50's McVey BS

Marciano fought many guys heavier than Peralta, you forgot about Joe Louis 66-2, but there were many others.

I know you want to make Lyle a monster puncher, how else can you explain Foreman getting dropped 2x and almost stopped and why dont you make him a skilled boxer like Charles and Walcott while your at it. The fact is we really dont know how well the prime Foreman would do with a real puncher, Peralta could box some but not a puncher and Lyle could punch some but not a puncher in the elite class at all. I can see the Foreman who crumples and wobbled against Lyle get flattened by Marciano and the 5"5 older Quawi showed us that a 5'5 guy could be effective in landing right hands against the older Big George, could you image if Quawi could punch.

You can say it was because Lyle was Foreman's size and now guys are calling Marciano Ha Ha 5'9-5-10 he was 5'11 but that does not matter if it did he would have never made it in the 1st place, he was a anomaly but a special one and he could punch extremely hard as attested to by Joe Louis (who said Marciano hit the hardest) Moore, Walcott and Charles among others......and McVey you can guess all you want but you really dont know how well the prime Foreman would take a solid right hand from an elite right hand banger or a pin point puncher but from the Lyle,Ali and Young fights,Georges stamina issues and the way his team avoided the punchers I think I would bet against Big G and a heavy bet if the odds favored him

 

Foreman was a world class power house but in his prime, on the night he beat Frazier, no bigger really than comeback Louis. Rocky did not fight anyone quite like Foreman. He was a dangerous young fighter. However, if Ted Gullick hits George on the chin so does Rocky. Sure he gets hit back like Gullick did but why should Rocky fold up as quick as a guy Terry Daniels already knocked out? Why would he need to fold up at all if Rockys power already has made effect on George first?

And each of those fighters were much, much harder to nail than George Foreman was. Very defensive slick fighters.
George walked into a lot of blows and was quite sloppy in many fights as a top rated contender. Young and impatient. Gung ho. They did not miss him. George might be coming straight at Rocky too.

But however often it was, Rocky hit them more times. don't forget that. He hurt all of them.

Not if he gets a clean shot. You cant down grade Marcianos power just because he was under 200lb. Joe Louis was just under 200lb at his best.

This will be problematic for Rocky because George is so strong but within an exchange George was more sloppy. If they are swapping blows and they both hit hard, both have good chins, sometimes it comes down to defence and pace.

 

Exactly!!!!

 

Louis Foreman

6.1.5" Height 6'3.5"
42" Chest 43"
17" Neck 17.5"
76.5" Reach 78.5"
15" Biceps 16"
12" Forearm 14"
Except for the additional weight that Louis carried because he was nearer 40 than 30 there really is no comparison.

 

****ell and a Lastarza helpless on the ropes were harder to nail than Foreman? Yeah right.

 

No, you either misread or ignored my statement, as you have repeatedly the one saying Marciano NEVER RENDERED ANY OF HIS CHALLENGERS UNCONSCIOUS.


Here is what I said:


"The only challenger Marciano faced heavier than Peralta was the 5'10", 35lbs overweight ****ell"

Care to dispute that? NO? I didn't think so.


I repeat BULL ****!

 

Wow Foreman was 2 inch bigger all round and one about pound heavier. Half an inch bigger neck makes all the difference. No comparison.:think

 

Marciano a pin point puncher .

 

Foreman is bigger in every department than Louis,2" bigger in the forearm
,an inch in the biceps, 2 inches in height an inch in the chest,an inch and a half in reach.
Louis's best weight was a good 12lbs lighter than he was against Marciano and everyone knows it.
Therefore your statement is false. If I'm 2 inches taller than you and appreciably bigger in the torso then we are not comparable in size.

It's elementary logic not rocket science and no amount of silly "wows", will alter that fact.

 

The eye of the storm right here. I have no clue why this thread has gone on for so long.

 

He dominated the blacks in his era and they were a skilled bunch with a deep resume so I guess that bothers a lot of people, for me Joe Louis was the greatest and he dominated whites and blacks of his era....Marciano ruined a lot of guys most of them happen to be black and all but 1 of his # 1 contenders were black but this seems to bother the same people who are on the Jack Johnson fan club, why should color matter....I wonder why? the guy was just the best of his era white and all, get over it

 

Foreman would be way too big for Marciano....

 

I know it hurts that he dominated his era and no he never lost just like that other Italian guy Calzage ...got to watch them Italian-white dudes they don't like to lose

 

This is rather unsavoury.Should we say Marciano's biggest fans on here You,Mendoza, and Mongoose are in his corner because of his complexion? Its true in Mendoza's case, but maybe he isn't the only one?

You and Mendoza implied I am colour prejudiced. Maybe you should look in the mirror?