George Foreman vs. Samuel Peter

O ya he sure showed that iron chin again B level mccline


foreman TKO 2

 

Bugner and Bonavena were both monster punchers. McCline has a week punch.

 

Bugner a monster puncher?

The fuuuuck? atsch

 

Monster is probably overstating it, but he did have some impressive looking ko's. I still believe Foreman faced the heavier punchers in his first career.

 

peter is so overated, he wouldnt last 3 rounds vs foreman. foreman would have blown away wlad in 1-2 rounds. i cant believe people actually give peter a chance vs foreman! ridiculous! lyle was 5x the fighter peter is! -peter isnt even a top 4 heavyweight in the world today.

 

Back when i wrote that, Peter's chin was as good as iron. Think before you post, Suzie.



By the way, how many punchers did a prime Foreman beat that actually had a chin and could land on him?

Just one, Lyle, and his power wasn't all that. The only guy of any note he stopped was Shavers, who had a glass jaw to begin with.

 

Joe Frazier and Ron Lyle. Frazier was undefeated ATG heavyweight champion, never stopped before, amazing knockout percentage and left hook. Lyle was far better in every way imaginable than sam peter.

If his power wasnt all that, how come he was the only one ever to legitmatley floor foreman outside of ali(not once but TWICE!!).....even punchers in the 1990s couldnt floor foreman like briggs morrison holyfield cooper cooney.

 

Fact is foreman in his prime never was outboxed by an Obese 38 year old middleweight, nor was he floored and nearly outpointed by a 38 year old B level fighter.

 

I don't think that Peter had anything over Foreman, except for maybe a tad more stamina, but that wouldn't give him much of an advantage. In order for Peter's durability to come into play, he'd have to take the beating of his life for several rounds, before George would tire enough for him to do anything about it. Although Sam has never been KO'd to his credit, he posses some very bad stylistic traits that I think would play into Foreman's hands. Additionally, while never being stopped, Peter has at least shown that he can be floored and staggered by men who aren't anwhere in George's league.

 

big george wins this handily..mid rounds stoppage..

 

Frazier relied on wearing his opponents down; he didn't have great one-punch power. On top of that, he needed several rounds to warm up, which Foreman didn't grant him.

So, the only puncher who landed on Foreman was Lyle. And he nearly stopped him. And i'm talking about a prime Foreman here, not the older one who improved his defence, balance, etc.

Last time i checked, Young knocking down Foreman wasn't fake or a dive, so i don't know why you categorize that one was not legitimately. Young landed a hard, short left hook that staggered him across the ring and a few more punches after that to put him down.

And i'm still talking about a prime Foreman here.


Stamina obviously did play a big role in his knockdowns by the hands of Young and Ali, but whose to say stamina won't be a factor against Peter? As Magoo said, stamina is the one thing Peter has over Foreman. To count Peter out as not having a chance to see the 3rd round makes you sound like someone who was around at that time before he got defeated.

You have to realise the following points:

a) Foreman's defence, balance, technique were horrible, and his stamina/pacing was questionable at best.

b) The only puncher that did land on him nearly knocked him out... other, lighter hitting guys knocked him down.

c) Peter is very similar to Lyle.


Now, to repeat my first post, i do strongly favor Foreman, but i think you can't count Peter out as having no chance as simple as you do.

 

Bugner lacked top power ,and Bonavena NEVER KO' D A TOP 10 FIGHTER.

 

Has any of you seen Foreman v Chuvalo?

Foreman showed more skills and movement in that fight than Sam Peter has showed in his whole career. He showed a ramrod jab and great power.

Don't tell me an obese Middleweight Toney is more dangerous than Chuvalo. Please.

Peter got rocked by Mccline and dropped 3 times early. :verysad

Don't bring up Foreman getting dropped by Young when this is a post-Ali Foreman who immediately retired after the Young fight.

It was exhaustion that made Foreman go down, not Young's power. atsch

It was boling out there, and he was dropped in the 12th.

Peter was near out in the early rounds against a 38 year old.

Plus Peter showed a good chin v Wlad, but Wlad is not the most attacking fighter.

Wlad was cautious a HELL v Peter. He looked shellshocked everytime he was hit.

Yes McCline is a big fella, but he has never Ko'd anybody worth a damm.

And Ron Lyle hit harder than McCline, and George took everything Lyle could hit him with and still won. :bart

 

I think you underate Foreman's stamina Chris,it's true he gassed out against Ali,but he was throwing everything for 8rds,at 41 he went 12 rds with the world Champion,never taking a backward step,at 47 he goes 10rds with the world Champion and has the power left to ko him,at 48 he loses a majority dec to a young top 5 contender,In none of these fights did he even sit down. Against Young he suffered heat exhaustion after trying to ko the wily Young,he nearly did it too,in the 3rd and 7th . Foreman was unlucky ,that ,in the 12th he missed a big right uppercut,while charging in ,Young countered,George's momentum added to Youngs punch meant the usually modest hitting Young scored a knockdown .Foreman was up at 1 and continued pursuing the rather negative Young,but lost the dec.I see Foreman koing the rabbit punching Peter inside 5 rds.

 

Chris Ill adress your other points later, but joe frazier DEFINTLEY had one punch knockout power. Hell he had one of the best left hooks in history, when that thing landed you went down!! that punch could knockout anybody