George Foreman: Wladimir will not leave much of a legacy in boxing

Doubt that, but we will never know.

I would think Haye would beat about half of them probably including:

Golota
Rahman
Tua
Akinwande
McCall

TBH, I don't know if Haye would beat these guys, but it would be entertaining.

 

I agree that Wladimir won'tleave much to be rememberd for. He really doesn't have any fights that stand out in his career.

 

Wait a minute. I want you to break down the hw division in decades for me. How about we start with the 1920's?

You said it was the worst hw era EVER, to make a statement like that, you must know a lot about the history of the division.

 

Definitely not top 10. And the point being is that the opposition are perceived to be so poor, that it takes away from his domination of the division.

Top 10 ATG lists are filled with fighters who beat the men who were some of the very best around in any era. You can look down their list of fights and achievements and pull out amazing performances against the very very best opposition.

Unfortunately for Wlad, you can't do that. And people will always hold it over his head.

Infact, you can probably mostly pull out effective performances, against average-poor opposition.

 

big george took to many shots to the head through his career :!:

 

With Lennox yeah probably a little jealously, considering that Manny called Wladimir the most talented heavyweight he has trained. I don't know what Georges deal is.

I think George ate one too many shots to be honest.

 

does it not anoy you when uve got likes of foreman and holmes saying nothing good about anybody but themselves??im sick of hearing the same old ****..id knock him out...****ing sure they wouldnt and they certinly wouldnt walk right thru them either..does my head in..how can wlad not be giving respect now..i mean look at his am and pro carrer and look how long hes dominated..the mans already got a legacy..to me its just ****ing arogant of them..and yes ur right they did earn respect..but in my eyes you lose it when u start being a condesending *****

 

:shock::shock::shock::shock::shock:

 

The problem with Foreman's theory is that he assumes history looks back at fighters and gives credit to guys who take huge risk, stick out their chin and deliver toe-to-toe wars while racking up a mixed record of wins and losses. I don't think that universally the case. The media and us fans hype up the "0" or the "unbeaten in XX fights". That's just how it is.

The media, us boxing fans, the audience. We all demand fighters to take a risk. And when they do and get knocked out... then like cheap hookers we quickly turn our backs on them, **** in their face and move on to the next fighter.

I completely understand fighters who realized that in order to maximize their bank roll and legacy it is much more important to keep winning no matter how rather than to win a in a spectacular fashion while taking a risk of getting knocked out.

 

George is on point...Besides Haye Wlad hasn't fought many top fighters. Anyone who was close to being a live opponent were dismantled by his brother previously. Vitali will have much more of a legacy than Wlad.

 

It doesn't have to do with taking shots or sticking out your chin. Had Wlad controlled a top opponent or someone rated as an ATG in the manner he does someone like Sam Peter, then he would be respected for it.

 

Haha. Maybe he's getting even more mad after the door got slammed back into his face after he opened it during the pre fight walk Vs. Haye..

I don't get the huge difference between Wlad and Mayweather styles. They both completely dominate their opponents.. Only Wlad has a way higher KO%.. Is it the Klitschko bro's fault that their opponents find it an accomplishment just to survive all 12rds. What matter's the most is efficiency and result in the ring, before entertain brawls. Even though we'd all love to see more of the later.

Also look how many times Foreman dropped a belt rather then face another guy i.e.
after beating Moore he dropped the WBA belt rather then face Tony Tucker, to face Axel Schulz. Which he then won by a controversial decision, and dropped the IBF belt instead of a rematch, to face Crawford Grimsley. Who??

 

i think your confusing the brothers ya tit

 

I've always liked Foreman and I still do, but I couldn't disagree more with his opinion.

I think this is even worse (and more idiotic) than LL's recent comments about Wlad.

 

Vitali is the better fighter.