George Foreman's comeback - fraud or for real?

His comeback is mostly smoke and mirrors culminating in his win over Moorer.

outside undeserved titleshots his carreer in the 90s in fairly unimpressive.

 

Foreman would NEVER EVER have fought them in the 90s unless there was a title at stake and even then he would avoid the fights if he could to much risk for him.

 

I can't walk through this forum without stumbling across a piece of garbage from you. Foreman destroyed Moorer in 1994, during a time when Tyson was in exhile, Bowe had just lost to Holyfield, Evander was in retirment, and Lewis had lost to McCall. Where does this ducking cocept take place, or is it all in your mind ChirstKing?

 

Fact? Fact don't belong. Proof against? Shouldn't there be some sort of accusation backed with a modicum of chance from a sane source before we start worrying?

The earth was flat too

 

i didnt mean fact as in it's totally fact ..the fact in all that was an empty statement...

 

Foreman did'nt fight any first tier or second tier HW in the 90s outside of undeserved title shots.

Foreman beat the chinniest HW champion of the era lets not make it out as if he slew goliath. Foreman admitted himself that he did'nt want to fight Lewis.

 

As long as you're going to sound like a broken record, at least have the courtesy of playing something decent. This stuff is ****.

 

That's just gotta be you in le avatar.

 

Foremans comeback was the most impressive I have seen...ever...the time off helped him mentally to overcome his weaknesses, he was not as much as a physical beast for the 1st 2-3 rds but he learned to relax in the ring and have more of a feel for what was going on in the ring...I think that relaxed style with the teachings of Archie Moore...helped George to be a very good fighter and help his argument in a top 10, prior to that he was exposed as a stamina-less wide swinger, who was done after a fast few rds...I can not see Louis, Marciano, Dempsey or Ali with there styles being able to do this at that advanced age but again they did not have the 10 yr. rest...there have been many fighter who gained something mentally with age like Walcott, Moore and Foreman...but not everyone can do it.....Does anyone not think the comeback helped his legasy...and I think the extra weight helped his strength..but that type of weight gain (muscle) can only happen in the heavys)

 

I think he was still a physical beast during his comeback, actually. Maybe not so much not in terms of punching power, but certainly strength-wise.

I like how Merchant commented on it during the Holyfield fight: "What George Foreman has always had, in both his careers, is great presence. The belief that he is the boss in the ring". It sounds like basic stuff, but how often was Foreman on the backfoot in 20 years of boxing?

 

I agree that Foreman's comeback was a huge sucess. I mean, the guy is obviously a smart and shrewd businessman, so I can't fault him for his success. From a monetary perspective, Foreman's comeback was the most successful ever!

But from a purely boxing standpoint, I think Foreman's comeback was overrated. His comeback was so successful because he was such a shrewd and careful matchmaker for himself, as well as being an expert showman and charismatic personality. As an actor, George was great! As a fighter, I think Foreman gets too much credit for his comeback.

Yeah, he beat Michael Moorer - and that was a tremendous achievement! But the fact remains that the Moorer win was really the only "big" fight that he won against a top-level opponent, and he was getting thoroughly trounced in the fight before uncorking his howitzer of a right hand.

He was a big, strong guy who trained hard, but there were a lot of fighters like that. Foreman got over because of his popularity; there were countless other fighters who were better fighters than George, but George routinely grabbed the largest pieces of the heavyweight pie and was given opportunities that should have gone to better fighters.

 

Even if that was the only win he had in his entire comeback, it was still a legacy maker. He convincingly KO'd a 34-0 lineal champion in the prime of his career, to make history by becoming both a two time champ, and the oldest title holder in history. Since no one else has really done this under the same circumstances as Foreman, then I'd say his comeback wasn't overrated.

 

Why do you talk as if Moorer was some great fighter . Moorer was the most weak chinned of the 90s champions.

He lucked out and beat moorer if Moorer had a better chin it would another UD loss for Foreman.

 

If a frog had wings, his ass would never get dirty. You make full concessions for Moorer having a suspect chin, but ignore the fact that Foreman was 45 years of age, and in his second career. I'm afraid you're not being very consistant in your approach.

 

Regardless of how he did it, Foreman did something that Jeffries, Louis, Ali, Frazier, Holmes, Hollyfield were unable to do.

He came back.

In a strong era none the less.

A large component of his sucess was astute tactics on his part but he broke the age old rule that no other great heavyweight could.

This is impresive not just as a fistic feat but as a tactical feat as well.