George groves injury update

@Wig

I’ve just watched the Groves v Eubank fight again. I did this because I didn’t want to just shoot you down for talking out your backside.

I wanted to see if I could see signs of ring age. If his speed and timing were off point, if his feet weren’t getting him out of trouble enough and he was getting caught with shots that he shouldn’t be. It was made easier by the fact the commentary was in Russian so I didn’t get swayed by them....

You’re talking out your backside. He was actually faster than Eubank. His timing was cute. He was throwing feints with half jabs, stepping forward, leaning, and catching Junior coming in with his awful footwork. He hurt Eubank a number of times, it really was boxer v mindless scrapper. Groves showed his ring IQ too, as he was subtilely moving to his right, again to offset Junior. He tied him up with ease every time Junior tried to initiate his attacks.

There is no signs of a shot fighter. If anything, I see someone who’s improving as he gets older. If he wants to, he can keep going for another 5 years.

 

I wonder is it healed a 100% for boxing. I'm not so sure. Shades of Haye ?

 

All this tournament has done is made me miss Froch, he would have trounced the field.

I can't get invested in Groves after what Carl did to him, he's always gonna be tge guy who got knocked out in front of 80,000 at wembley

 

Can't really speculate without knowing the full details of the dislocation and damage to the surrounding socket. Without complications he should make a full recovery. Psychologically I don't think Groves will be affected and if anything will come back stronger (judging on past form).

 

I wonder if it’s something that Smith could target? Land a few shots right on the shoulder and see how it holds up?

 

I was actually thinking about this yesterday and was going to post something on it, only for a bit of fun, but would this version of Groves (pre 12th dislocation) beat that version of Froch in them fights? I honestly think he does. I think at that point Froch was past his best with an awful lot of mileage on the clock. He very nearly got beat by a young version of Groves who was reckless, childish and inexperienced. This version of Groves would see that first fight out. He wouldn’t rush in and blow his load trying to get Froch out of there. He would be far more measured.

I think my point is, we need to let go of the 25-26 year old boy version of Groves and judge him on the 30 year old man version who’s a world champion.

 

Everyone Groves has fought since Froch has been at least a couple of levels below Froch. I mean people are getting gassed off groves beating Eubank Jr who frankly is awful.

George is lucky to be in a transitional era with old leftovers from the super 6 era and average dudes like smith and eubanks.

Froch will always > groves. Always.

 

Groves is SH!T

 

The boxing world is always in transition, it doesn’t stand still. You can’t keep harping back to 4-5 years ago much the same as you can’t for 25 years ago. Froch who was already over the hill beat an emerging talent, it is simply about career timing.

You can’t just write a division off by reeling off the names of an unproven young fighter (Smith) and a natural 160 as examples of its strength. What about Ramirez, Benavidez, Plant, Degale etc.

I was a Froch fan, he was a very strong fighter. He wasn’t unbeatable though.

 

You, are calling people fanboys? You've got more ginger pubes stuck in your teeth than Holly Willabooby!

 

If Howard Foster had been as keen to wave off Froch when Groves dropped him hard in that early going would the stoppage of been controversial and how would of his career gone from there?

 

I’m happy to have a reasonable debate with you if you want one, but you’ll have to stop sipping the fruit shoot and put the crayola down first.

 

Groves might be medically cleared to fight but his bum shoulder might only allow him to punch at a fraction of the speed/power/endurance he used to. A shame really, don't want to see injured fighters in big fights, they should have given him more time.

 

I don't rate smith that highly. Hes decent without being great. But think groves could come a croper against him. Weird thing is I think eubank would maybe beat smith. Just different styles.

Smiths a good hooker. Groves always worry's me when he gets carried away in fights been a bit more measured but still think he gets carried away at times. Exactly what cost his downfall in both froch fights. I m not sure he has totally learnt....eubank fight was impressive tbf. And he stuck to a very good game plan because I think he did respect eubank as dangerous. Groves does tend to underestimate opponents tho. I think someone like smith might be kryptonite for him tho....coming back a bit too soon from injury. Won't have the big weight advantage this time. Think he might get caught in an exchange.

But I always worry when groves fights anyway not even sure why cause its not like I really like the bloke. Good entertaining style tho. I still think that first froch fight was the best I,ve ever seen him. He was effortless that night for a lot of it. He hasn't been quite the same for me including that second froch fight. But he is developing his style. Its more labourous from him nowadays...but he may actually be more effective. Still think I seen enough in fights against chudinov and even the boy he injured...gunecht. That hes still a bit vulnerable when he tires. He still has small lapses in concentration. As in hes winning easily against gunecht on the outside...then he starts hooking with the guy. For no apparent reason. He always looks to me like he's about to get caught. A bigger guy in smith might be the one to do it.

 

I read Groves will be fighting, but I am worried about his shoulder, he needs to test it, hope it holds up, would like to see him win after doing so well, shame to not be able to finish. Has there been a date set yet?