Georges Carpentier - Evaluate

Does anyone believe, the KNEE in the NUTS was a fix also.. Carp must have been frozen after that... Great slo-mo footage.

 

Siki became enraged when Carpentier started to T off on him contrary to their agreement and lost his head,result the "Orchid Man "nearly became the "Eunoch Man",

 

Seriously mate... I think Golota may have viewed that footage as 'ring guidence'... Its the most obvious knee in the groin since god knows when... It hurt watching it... 4 times...

p.s. Hope lifes treating you well old man. Cheers.

 

The black fighters of the early 20th century often had no choice but to lay down for their crooked managers and throw a fight now and then. Please read details in chapter 7 of my book on joe Gans. The book on Battling Siki also does a good job of describing fixed fights in the 20's, the Siki/Carpentier fight especially.


http://www.amazon.com/Joe-Gans-Biog...=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1237086256&sr=1-1

 

Things were much different in France mark. Siki wasnt forced into a fix by the color of his skin it was simply the most financially rewarding option for his manager at the time. Race didnt have anything to do with it. In France during the first quarter of the century race played a back seat to culture which is why so many black fighters from america went to france and flourished. Im not suggesting that racism didnt exist in France but it was not nearly as insidious as it was in the United States during the same time period and allowed for far more opportunities for blacks. The Siki book is a good book but it strikes me at how much of an apologist the author is for Siki's behavior. Siki's reputation as a lowlife shitheel who didnt possess any manners was well deserved. The guy was a nut and an *******. Futhermore the author pumps up Siki's ability and accomplishments far more than what they were. Siki was a very crude fighter. Strong, and durable yes but when he started meeting people who werent completely overrated (Carpentier) or complete euro trash (Nilles) he got his ass handed to him (Berlenbach, Norfolk, and others). The one argument I will side with the author on is that Siki was absolutely robbed against McTigue. I have the most complete version of the fight which exists and McTigue did absolutely nothing except try to last the distance (which is pretty much how he usually fought).

 

Does the book confirm that Gans actually took a dive?

 

Hey ,not so much of the Old Man, I'm very well thanks had a great weekend so far,running my dogs ,went to the theatre in the evening ,,out to the Pub today.Hope everything is OK in Rolf Harris land,crack open a tinny with me later.:hi: