Gerald “the Gman” McClellan vs Marvelous Marvin Hagler

Neither of them happened that way, actually.

 

I can't remember Hagler ever weighing in at 156 at his peak.

 

Done a bit of research on this. Same day weigh ins started being scrapped as early as 1983 following the Spinks-Muhammad light heavyweight fight. They were a thing of the past long before Eubank-Watson II.

The safety measure that was introduced after Eubank-Watson II was to have oxygen available at ringside which may have minimised some of the damage done to Watson had it been administered earlier. Ironically, that move may well have saved Gerald's life although given the terrible state he is in, I don't feel I have said the right thing there.

The point you're responding to is that, if a man has to struggle so hard to reduce from 198 or thereabouts to get to 160 - essentially shedding 40lbs off an already lean frame - why would he do that, more or less, for a non-title fight in which he was under no compunction to weigh 160? Why struggle to get to 160 again when there was no need? It doesn't make sense.

Similarly, if he were naturally so much bigger than the middleweight division, why would he not take more advantage of the chance to gain some extra weight - or not have to cut so much weight - when he fought for the super middle title? He came in at 165lbs suggesting that, while he may have been a big middleweight, he was only a small super middle and not this cruiserweight destroyer you're painting him as. Unless, of course, Benn was SRL in disguise and stipulated it

It's no use blaming his trainers and saying they were amateurs. A genuinely big man ie one who can weigh 198lbs and still look cut will struggle to make 168 let alone 165 even if his trainers are amateurs. Who was this trainer anyway that routinely got a natural near 200lber down to 160 time and again? Rosemary Conley?

Hagler in 11.

 

Great post.

 

No, remembered wrong. 157 was the lowest. Against Hamsho: https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/8684

 

Yeah, he was 157 a couple of times. I remember he was 160 a few times too, or 159 1/2.
He even had to take his underpants off to make weight against Minter.

 

That bet would be all he'd win that night.

One for the Brits, that.

 

https://images.app.goo.gl/ffFqHdP94may5SKV6

This is McLellan weighing in at 160. For someone who has cut 40lbs or 20% of his bodyweight, he just doesn't look all that cut to me.

Anyway, we're getting off the point. The question was not who is bigger out of Hagler and McClellan but could Marvin Hagler do as well as, if not better than, Ralph Ward, Dennis Milton or Nigel Benn?

 

He didn't have to. He was just showing off.

Marvelous Marvin Dangler.

 

It's even doubtful he was gaining 25 pounds. That egregious level of post weigh-in gain didn't start until the late 90s or even 00s.

It probably coincides to the fact that over the years, the 24-hour weigh has been occurring earlier and earlier in the day.

In McClellan's era, it really was a 24-hour weigh in. They would weigh-in in the late evening/night, and fight the next day in the late evening/night.

Nowadays, it's not even a 24-hour weigh-in anymore. It's like a 32-34 hour weigh-in, cause they take place in the very early afternoon. It's ridiculous.

I'm telling you, this stuff about the weight is all just apart of fueling the McClellan myth.

The guy was most likely coming into the ring in the low 170s.

 

I said all of this **** earlier in the thread and essentially proved his weight cutting was a myth but I was high so I really went the extra mile to be a long winded A-hole about it to Bulldog.

Apologies to all.

 

Nobody to have ever fought at MW stops Hagler let alone blows him out.

 

Or Marvelous Marvin Waggler for those who prefer a rhyme. I'm not straying far off my point though.

 

They were weighing in at mostly noon on the day of the fight until Sept 91.

Tyson lost 40lb in two weeks to fight Douglas, its what they did back then for some reason. When he didn't need to.

I highly doubt he was walking around at 198 in 91 with many fights in short succession. He kept his weight down I'm sure.

By 94 he had clearly added a lot of mass to his lats and was having longer breaks between fights.

 

He's flat as a pancake and dry, cutting into muscle tissue, visceral fat and fluid.