Gerald “the Gman” McClellan vs Marvelous Marvin Hagler

Current vote stand 35 for a Hagler win and 3 for people who can’t accept reality. That it took eleven pages... I thought that was special.

Hagler exploits flaws in Gmans technique and gets him out of there in eight.

 

It shows the lack of basic physiologic knowledge, and delusion. It's totally unfair putting Hagler (who'd be a welter today) in with McClellan, a light heavy/cruiser. They are not the same size/weight. It is a mismatch.

Very simple stuff. But this board is a secret little society of delusion, with a readership of around 50 people.

 

In the UK. Not in the US. They weren’t fully on board with the change over there until the early to mid 90s from what I’ve been able to gather. Several years after it had become the accepted way of doing things over here.

This was a very, very gradual process all over, it should be noted. There seems to have been at least a decade between point A where it first came into practice and point B where everyone else was on the same page.

 

@Bulldog24

I’ve explained in my most recent post that next day weigh ins were already the norm in the US when McClellan turned pro. Not that it should matter for non title bouts, as there’s no incentive to cut weight. Certainly no incentive to massively dehydrate yourself the way you say he did.

Also, there were multiple occasions earlier in his career where he fought twice in the same week or 3 times in the same month.

So, considering those things, I ask you:

Why and how did he weigh in the low to mid 160s consistently for 6, 8, and 10 round non title fights throughout his entire career?

 

Really?

When you go and write something like this:

What utter bollocks!

 

Aww, fraid not. Fighters have the knowledge today to manipulate scales with fluid, its what they do. They didn't then.

Different times bless you.

 

'fraid so.

But you keep pretending you know best.

I've read some of your expert opinion before. It was laughable then. It's as laughable now.

Keep going, please...

 

Marvin was the same height and had longer reach than Benn.

The fact remains that Gerald beat one really good fighter in his career and that guy was on the downside and a division over his best weight.

 

Many feel Hagler was 5ft8.

Benn was listed 5ft10.25

 

I really don’t think Gerald’s power is overrated. Mugabi, Jackson, and Benn said he was the hardest puncher they’ve ever faced

 

Steward said just after all that he walked on water.

His defense was airtight yet McCellan's blowing him out in under 30 seconds

No, Gman got beat so lets strite it from the record. someone must have done something really out of this world, they simply must have.

*Mostly sub par guys.

Mostly lower level boxers that were outgunned.

Yet Holmes stopped him, the only man to do so. Maybe he was superman that night too. He must have been. He had to have been.

In all my years i have never heard anyone put Czyz among the very best boxing brains out there let alone top 3. Tyson neither for that matter.

Hagler was most certainly not Duran's first ever fight at middleweight.
Mugabi had at least 17 fights at middleweight and above prior to fighting Hagler.
Leonard fought a middleweight years before he fought Hagler.
Hearns had also had multiple fights around middleweight or above.

Holmes stopped him, Gman didn't. I'd also be rather confident other people besides Holmes would have been willing to fight Gman. do you think everyone stupid?

Yes, of course. Gerald didn't stop him because he didn't try to. Yeah that's it. Jesus.

Is that the same Tate that was pole axed in 2 rounds by Jones? Got beaten by a guy called Percy Harris not long before the Jackson fight? Lets not even talk about Hall.

No-one is forcing you to hang around with us know nothings big boy.

Trust me when i say you had nothing to apologize for mate.

 

They are human bodies. Get real will you.

 

If you can't see McClellan's power then there's something seriously wrong with you. You've never been in a ring, near a ring, or leave the house.

 

He blew Mugabi and Jackson away in a minute or two and punched Benn out the ring in less than a minute. Dropped Williams for the only time in his life at the start of the second. Had Roy Jones pinned hard against the ropes for the entire nine minutes in 88. This suggests you can punch somewhat.

 

And no he didn't try to stop Williams, Steward wanted him to get eight rounds under his belt and win a decision. And he won every minute of every round against Williams behind the jab which nobody ever came close to doing. Steward wasn't in his corner for the Milton or Ward disasters as he was too busy with other fighters, but didn't regret it because it was a learning curve for Gerald.