Gerald “the Gman” McClellan vs Marvelous Marvin Hagler

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  1. greynotsoold

    greynotsoold Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It isn't really. Hagler had the bulk of his fights with same day weigh ins. McClellan did not.
    I don't believe that McClellan ever fought as a "middleweight" at anything less than 175, and that most of the time he was in the mid 180s. There are too many reliable boxing guys that talk about it.
     
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  2. Bulldog24

    Bulldog24 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Remember Rod Douglas out-strength'd Benn in that 156lb London ABA semi in 85, beating him. And dwarfed him at 165 in 86 (Benn won that, rotating his hips into shots instead of shoeshining like the year before; knocking Rod over a few times en route to 5-0 dec).
     
  3. Loudon

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    You’ve completely missed the point.
     
  4. Loudon

    Loudon Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    So you think that Gerald weighed up to 185 plus pounds, despite the fact that he weighed in a full 3 pounds under the limit at 165 pounds?
     
  5. Bulldog24

    Bulldog24 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    We know he did. Grow up.
     
  6. Loudon

    Loudon Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No. We don’t know that. That is the point.

    That is why people are questioning it.

    Again, a guy who rehydrates by such huge amounts is really draining himself to make the weight in the first place.

    I could accept that Gerald could have rehydrated by 15-20 pounds had he have had a hard time making weight. But 3 pounds is huge to a fighter. A single pound is a lot to a fighter.

    Weighing in at a full 3 pounds under the limit means that he made weight comfortably.

    There’s just no logic in a guy rehydrating by 20 pounds, after weighing in at 3 full pounds under the limit.

    If he’d have weighed in at 168, then I could believe that he could have been near 190 on fight night in the ring. But not after weighing in at 165. There’s no way that he weighed in at that weight and was then 185 plus in the ring. It doesn’t make sense. And he can’t have weighed 20 pounds more than Benn either.
     
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  7. Bujia

    Bujia Active Member Full Member

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    The McClellan weight cutting myth has been pretty conclusively disproved in this thread. Read through the first 5 or so pages. He likely never weighed much more than the low 170s in the ring.

    Bulldog knows he is wrong, but his entire argument is based on this faulty theory, so he keeps doubling down and ignoring the evidence. He won’t even back down from his quote that McClellan would easily KO Hagler in 30 seconds. It’s as bad as the Toney/Golovkin thread with Mendoza.
     
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  8. Bulldog24

    Bulldog24 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Absolute concrete evidence that everyone was lying at G-Man weighing 180-185+ in 160 title defenses, and that a few posters on this board were there with personal scales
     
  9. Bulldog24

    Bulldog24 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You don't know he made weight comfortably. Maybe he didn't check, maybe his scales were wrong. He was in the UK and our scales are in stones and kilos - in the US they only know lbs. Maybe he overdid the English tea and pissed too much out, or his heating was too high in his hotel room and woke up a sweaty mess. Or stress, a foreign country about to face Nigel Benn. Different food and time zones

    You don't know, so button it.
     
  10. Kamikaze

    Kamikaze Be real• Full Member

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    Now the thread has become an argument on what Gerald weighed with no mention of Hagler in sight.
     
  11. Bulldog24

    Bulldog24 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It's not fair if they aren't near the same size.
     
  12. Bulldog24

    Bulldog24 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hagler was as good as they get, but not a big tall broad cruiser..
     
  13. Bujia

    Bujia Active Member Full Member

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    Why did he cut down to 163 1/2 for this non title bout at Super Middleweight? His opponent just made the 168 pound limit, same as Benn.

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  14. Bujia

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    Why was he cutting so much weight for non title bouts where neither he nor his opponent needed to make the 160 pound limit?
     
  15. Loudon

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    Oh my.