Gerald “the Gman” McClellan vs Marvelous Marvin Hagler

Lindell Holmes stopped Sanderline and was the only man ever to do so. Sanderline actually got off the floor against Gman and lasted the distance when his career was on the down.

Gman's list of quality victims is very very very short. You wrote off Mugabi as a puncher as he was moving up or new to the division so i dare say he wasn't much of a victim for Gman years later after he'd already been stopped in 1 by Norris. By the same token Jackson was a smaller man who fought at 154 for many years so he's no true test either yeah.

McCalellan just doesn't have many runs on the board in the big scheme of things particularly when given a KO over Hagler in 30 seconds.

 

I have a feeling he’s gonna “skim through” this post.

 

Hearns, Duran, Mugabi and Leonard had their first ever fight at middle vs Hagler. Julian Jackson was already long time middle champ.

Holmes stopped him on his feet, disputed. Early in careers when SW was still a prospect somewhat and taking chances. Williams was the only guy who'd go in with LH.

Didn't Mugabi severely struggle to make 154 for the Norris fight and nearly pass out after weighing in?

 

Absolutely. Mostly nonsense, as most of this board is.

 

No realism or substance. With a grand readership of 35-40 people.

 

Did McClellan go in for the kill vs Williams? No, it was part of his progression, learning from the Ward fight when he dropped Ward in the second and blew his load. Williams had long been a slippery gatekeeper by then, famously, and one who gave everyone - bar McClellan - hell around 1990.

 

It was typed out, all those sentences and paragraphs, just for the sake of arguing or being a dick. No substance. Sad, really.

 

McClellan can neither outbox or outpunch Hagler so how does he win ?? Answer is he can't.

If Nigel Benn can take GM's best punches, walk GM down and stop him late what on earth would make anyone think a prime Hagler wouldn't do the same only more easily and possibly earlier ?? If McClellan had an elite defence MAYBE he could win but he showed in the first Jackson fight and against Benn that he was easy to hit.

 

Benn had fully grown into a super middle with day before weigh-ins, and was upto about 60kg hanging from his neck harness

Hagler is not a specimen like this, he's a little dude, albeit far cuter technically and historically greater for his 70s run without a pot to **** in and lack of Olympic success or promotion

 

A late 70s Hagler is one of the cutest technicians you'll see (against fellow 5ft9in 155lbers..)

 

You’re not wrong here. I was definitely being an ******* in those posts. That was never gonna lead to a productive discussion. I should’ve taken a different route. My apologies.

 

My first thought when reading that McClellan is too big.

 

Hagler destroys the massively over-rated Mccllean .
Same day weigh-in , prior day weigh-in etc doesn't
matter.
Mccllean's "legendary" punching power is more rumor
than substantiated. A old, shot J.Mugabi who hadn't
looked good since prior to the Hagler fight , 6yrs earlier.
J.Jackson who was stopped in the prime of his career
by M.Mccallum whom wasn't a great puncher, also
badly hurt by multiple fighters between his fights
with Mccallum and Mccllean , his power only
saving him from multiple ko losses.
Benn, not noted for having a great chin,
he was ko'ed earlier in his career by
relatively light punchers in comparison to
what Mccllean was supposedly capable of.
Yet Mccllean couldn't keep him down, and
eventually ko'ed by him.
The rest of his opponents were a who's who
of nobodies and 3rd raters.

If prime, Hagler would make very short work
of Mccllean. Mccllean would give past prime Hagler a tougher
contest, but like Mugabi,Hearns,Sibson,
and other big punchers discovered. He would only
**** him off, and still get ko'ed.

 

@Flash24 It's quite hilarious that McClellan is grouped in with punchers like Foster, and Tyson. It happens all the time.

Those guys destroyed durable, solid chinned fighters.

Gerald never did. Julian was shopworn, and a natural junior middleweight.

And STILL, Jackson was taking control of the first fight until he walked into a big right hand.

In the rematch, Jackson was shot and essentially a one eyed fighter by that point.

Color me unimpressed.

McCellan is such a myth.

 

BBBoC refused Jackson a license to fight Pyatt in England in 1988 because of his detached retina. 88. It didn't hinder him either..

A shame he 'walked onto' a massive right hand huh. Cringe.