Gerald McClellan v James Jeffries

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Gerald McClellan v James Jeffries

  1. Jeffires by KO

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  2. Jeffries by Dec

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  3. McClellan by KO

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    32.3%
  4. McClellan by Dec

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    3.2%
  1. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    It was common practice for fighters of the period to misreport their weights, and Fitzsimmons was accused of it more than once.

    For most fights of the period, the weights reported are not even consistent between papers.
     
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  2. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    So you have no names?
    You are of course only referring to fights in which the boxers did not weigh in and gave whatever figure they wished,but for many fights they did have a formal weigh in.And therefore we have a yardstick.
     
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  3. mburr

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    Based on the film I’ve seen of the two if the G-Man can’t Knock him out he wins on pts.
     
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  4. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    But not before me!
     
  5. janitor

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    Wouldn't trust the weigh in as far as I could throw the scales.

    For the Corbett fight, Fitzsimmons weight was claimed to be as low as 157, as high as 180, and everything in between!

    The only thing that you can take from the conflicting reports, is that nobody really knew!
     
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  6. mcvey

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  7. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Oh I think you'd trust them if they were in your favour!
     
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  8. young griffo

    young griffo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    A chinny blown up middleweight was able to render McClellan a virtual vegetable within 10 rounds of fighting in a single fight.

    Does that factor count too?
     
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  9. mcvey

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    Yes.
    Just as a blown up middleweight was able to concede 52lbs to Jeffries and fight him 20 rounds to a draw should count as a factor.imo.
    The same blown up middleweight was stopped by a 147lbs welter.
    Joe Walcott 147 lbs beat Joe Choynski 163 lbs by TKO at 2:38 in round 7 of 25
    • Date: 1900-02-23
    This is the guy some here want to claim as a top 5 scalp for a heavyweight champion to be, when he was just 21 years old and a novice.
     
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  10. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Sure does. But in truth it was probably a bunch of shots from Julian Jackson and Benn that did the trick.
     
  11. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Absolutely not.

    There are so many conflicting figures given, that you couldn't possibly trust them!
     
  12. young griffo

    young griffo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That’s supposition though. The fact is the first time Gerald went up from bullying much smaller 160lbers to take on an elite 168lber (who admits himself he was small for a Super Middleweight) his career ended.
     
  13. young griffo

    young griffo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It was only Jeffries 8th fight and by accounts Choynski boxed and didn’t engage with Jeffries to expose the novices relative inexperience.

    I still think Jim did better against Choynski in his 8th fight than another 23 year old future heavyweight champion that you regard highly managed. Choynski was a very dangerous fighter with an impressive record against larger opposition. McClellans record against larger men (I’m not sure he ever met one when he stepped into the ring) isn’t.
     
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  14. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    So, 150 pound Joe Walcott could stop Choynski but 210 pound Jeffries couldn't.

    Oh my...
     
  15. The Morlocks

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    The only one low rent seamus is you and yr constant baiting.
     
  16. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    In Gerald McClellans eighth professional fight, he fought wait for it..........

    1-5-0 Anthony Jackson!!!!