Gerald McClellan vs Jack Dempsey

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by ChrisPontius, Apr 6, 2008.


  1. ChrisPontius

    ChrisPontius March 8th, 1971 Full Member

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    Before you scream "Mismatch, Gerald was a middleweight!":

    McClellan was close to 180lbs when he stepped in the ring, and Dempsey had his hands full with guys who were lightheavyweights that couldn't crack half as hard as McClellan.


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  2. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Mismatch. McClellan wasn't in Dempsey's class.
     
  3. Maxmomer

    Maxmomer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Mismatch, Gerald was a middleweight.
     
  4. Sonny's jab

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    I've lost all belief in picking winners in these fantasy match-ups. Futile speculation. Arguments over things that can never be settled. I guess the fact that no one is ever proved wrong is what fuels the debate and attracts people to it. But the satisfaction of being right is unattainable. It's all hot air.

    Anyway, interesting one this. Two guys you'd expect to put on a great fight. Nigel Benn was kind of Dempsey-esque, and him and McClellan put on a classic, albeit one that ended horribly and regrettably.
     
  5. McGrain

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  6. McGrain

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    You never learn something though? During these discussions? I almost always do.
     
  7. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    I like Dempsey TKO 1 Mccellan.
     
  8. McGrain

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    I like that too.
     
  9. Sonny's jab

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    Sure you can learn things, but you have to read (and write) 90% drivel and bull**** to stay up to speed in the discussion.

    There must be better, more efficient ways for us to share our insights and observations and relay our appreciation for certain fighters and their abilities.

    Why insist on compromising our integrity by arguing over these matches ? We end up posing pseudo-scientific theses to back up our points, and all manner of analogies and irrelevancies. I've been guilty of it.

    We got people citing zoological info among other nonsense, pretending like they're ballistics or physics experts, using dubious logic at every turn, arguing whether a guy weighed 190 or 197, going off on all sorts of tangents (when we could be talking about the actual amazing things these great fighters did !). Pages upon pages of this stuff.

    Thing is, we probably forget all the crap we write and then three months later we end up doing it all over. :lol:

    Hey, I've probably made this post before. Just ignore me.
     
  10. ChrisPontius

    ChrisPontius March 8th, 1971 Full Member

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    :lol:

    Isn't it a great.

    A recent discussion of two fighters ended in how fast a T-rex could've been able to run. Gotta love the classic section.
     
  11. Russell

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    I know I'm going to catch a cosmic amount of bull****, but hey, why not.

    Gerald started with bad intentions with the first punch he threw. ALWAYS.

    He always started with a left and then a long, unbelievably accurate straight right. This punch connected almost every time and it was lethal. Some feel more lethal than anything Julian Jackson had.

    Believable because the first punch Gerald threw ended fights more than once, whether it be a head or body shot. He also had Julian reeling with the first landed shot in their second fight.

    Anyway, he started even faster than Dempsey and was meaner, if that's possible. He was unbelievably accurate and hit as hard as a light heavyweight, at least.

    I can see him stunning Dempsey some. He's going to lose, but the statements that it's a 100% walkover are simpifying things a little bit too much for me.
     
  12. Rock0052

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    Yeah, I've noticed that people express how sure they are of victory by just shortening the length of the fight, even if that's nearly impossible.

    Example: Someone thinks Hagler would dominate Kelly Pavlik. Instead of writing "Hagler wins convincingly more often than not", they just convert that into "Hagler by death". If you think Terry Norris would lose to Sven Ottke in Germany, you'd simply phrase it "Ottke eats his children, crushes his soul, and puts a plague on Norris' houses." :good
     
  13. Russell

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    Yeah, even fathoming that the loser could make a fight out of it is a sin.
     
  14. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    Wow Russell, if you think Mcclelln would cause that much problems for Jack, I can't even fathom how you think Mcclellan would do vs Marciano.
     
  15. Russell

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    Hahhaa, there it is.

    "He might be able to stun Dempsey for a moment, the guy was that powerful as a middleweight and he really weighed 180 some odd pounds!"

    "WOOOOOOW"