Gerald Mcclellan vs James Toney @ 168....who wins??

Rock0052 · Jul 27, 2013

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I think we would have seen a lot of covering up from Roy early in the fight, possibly with few counters on the inside on the ropes, but I see McClellan dominating the first bit of the fight due to Roy being cautious of not getting hit cleanly with the huge shot.

I think as the fight goes on, Roy's will would impose more and more.. If Roy could just get out of the first 4 or 5 rounds, I think he pulls away at the end to a decision, flat out schooling G-Man at times in the later rounds.
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Agreed. While not the comparison most would make, Corrie Sanders reminded me of McClellan in that they were extremely dangerous fighters early on, but later on, they could be had- provided you could survive.

If Roy makes it past the 5th, I think he'd really frustrate McClellan and take care of business. The one thing with Gerald is that you couldn't afford to start cold against him, so he would be a live underdog in that one for me.

Mod-Mania · Jul 27, 2013

Toney clear decision

Mind Reader · Jul 27, 2013

Rock0052 said: ↑

It would've had the potential to be if McClellan had really embraced what I believe Steward initially envisioned for him, which was a Tommy Hearns-esque boxer-puncher who could stalk and dismantle guys at range. That's kind of been Manny's MO, and Toney wouldn't have the same stylistic advantages as he would against an aggressive, open slugger with questionable conditioning who willingly came right into his domain.

That McClellan never adjusted to it and showed he was more than a one-speed fighter probably wasn't for Manny's lack of trying. I think Manny and King realized that he was really most dangerous, effective, and profitable if you just let him go and do that while matching him with fighters who didn't have the staying power to expose that and wear him down. I think the choice not to match him up with more durable opponents to round his game out was a mistake, but the hype and cash he was bringing in was probably too much to resist

I don't mean to jump to conclusions as it's a shame the Benn tragedy is the only time he'd been beyond 8 rounds (he was 2-1 in fights that went 8 rounds going into it), but I don't think it's unreasonable to say Gerald's conditioning would've been a big question mark, particularly at the pace he liked to set. The downside to matching him with fighters with shaky chins is that Gerald only boxed 84 rounds over 34 fights, which is a crazy low number for a championship caliber fighter. That number also puts his durability into question given that he was showing some troubling after effects from the Jackson fight.
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Good stuff.:good

Clinton · Jul 27, 2013

Rock0052 said: ↑

It would've had the potential to be if McClellan had really embraced what I believe Steward initially envisioned for him, which was a Tommy Hearns-esque boxer-puncher who could stalk and dismantle guys at range. That's kind of been Manny's MO, and Toney wouldn't have the same stylistic advantages as he would against an aggressive, open slugger with questionable conditioning who willingly came right into his domain.

That McClellan never adjusted to it and showed he was more than a one-speed fighter probably wasn't for Manny's lack of trying. I think Manny and King realized that he was really most dangerous, effective, and profitable if you just let him go and do that while matching him with fighters who didn't have the staying power to expose that and wear him down. I think the choice not to match him up with more durable opponents to round his game out was a mistake, but the hype and cash he was bringing in was probably too much to resist

I don't mean to jump to conclusions as it's a shame the Benn tragedy is the only time he'd been beyond 8 rounds (he was 2-1 in fights that went 8 rounds going into it), but I don't think it's unreasonable to say Gerald's conditioning would've been a big question mark, particularly at the pace he liked to set. The downside to matching him with fighters with shaky chins is that Gerald only boxed 84 rounds over 34 fights, which is a crazy low number for a championship caliber fighter. That number also puts his durability into question given that he was showing some troubling after effects from the Jackson fight.
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This is a great post:good

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