Gerald McClellan vs. Kelly Pavlik

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  1. slicksouthpaw16

    slicksouthpaw16 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Pavlik was suprisingly out boxing Jermain from a distance and Taylor is a lot better technically sound than Gerald is.
    His boxing skills and his defense is underrated. Gerald was nothing more than a banger and a puncher's chance is the only thing that he has in this match up.

    Also, pre Jackson McClellan would have stopped Benn early. That was back when the weight drain didn't have as much effect and he could fight for an entire fight. The rabbit punches that Benn landed didn't help either. That fight was just all wrong and shouldn't even Be mentioned when discussing a fastasy match up with Gerald. He was not at his best.
     
  2. Minotauro

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  4. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Just how much weight was McClellan cutting, Southpaw?
     
  5. slicksouthpaw16

    slicksouthpaw16 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    First fight or the rematch, Taylor was being out boxed and found it hard to hit Pavlik in the later rounds. Pavlik's body work and straight right hands stytematically broke Taylor down. Taylor also has a great chin himself but if you get a prolong beating like that, you have no where else to go but down.

    Again, the only reason why Taylor was able to hurt Pavlik is because he was fooling around and dropped his hands. What you are ignoring is the fact that Pavlik came back at the end of that same very round and stunned Taylor. His stamina, workrate, chin, and power outlasts Gerald and stops him in the later rounds.

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  6. slicksouthpaw16

    slicksouthpaw16 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Who called him a master boxer? I said that his skills were good enough to out box Gerald, who only had a punchers chance in most if his higher level fights. Gerald was being out boxed by Julian Jackson of all people in their first fight and Jackson is not known as a pure boxer at all.

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  7. Russell

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    Jackson wasn't a terrible boxer when he decided to do it.

    Anyway, I fail to see why McClellan NEEDED to be a boxer or anything approaching it when he knocked out over half a dozen guys with the first landed punch of the fight. To the head, to the body... Didn't matter.

    Some felt he hit harder than Julian Jackson.
     
  8. slicksouthpaw16

    slicksouthpaw16 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Who was those guys and where was they ranked? Because Jackson was the best fighter that he beat and he was a natural junior middleweight. Jackson also wasn't known for having the best chin in the world and Gerald was catching him flush in the early rounds of their first fight and didn't get him out until the middle rounds.

    A fighter has to prove his puncher power against top level opposition.
     
  9. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Erm, McClellan also got Jackson going with the first few punches of their second fight.
     
  10. bxrfan

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    And McClellan did, knocking Julian Jackson and John Mugabi TFO, Jackson twice, and knocked Benn clear out of the ring in the opening seconds of their fight, and yet again in the eighth, when he was having a blood clot in his brain.
     
  11. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Yeah, I fail to see how you can discredit McClellan when he was dying on his feet and bouncing Benn around.
     
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  13. slicksouthpaw16

    slicksouthpaw16 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Jackson was at his best when he was a junior middleweight. Also, John Mugabi at that point had been recked by Hagler and already been stopped by Duane Thomas and Terry Norris as well. That fight with McClellan actually occured 5 years after he had been recked by Hagler. Mugabi was never a natural middleweight in the first place so your opinion there is moot. Everything is wrong with that.

    Knocking a fighter down (Benn) down several times means nothing if you can't finish the job. Benn's chin is also not as good as Pavlik's. Benn has benn knocked out several times, when Pavlik has fought two of the divisions hardest puncher and never hurt until fooling around.
     
  14. Sonny Carson

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    The point is McClellan's a step above Jermain Taylor and Pavlik had trouble with him. Taylor was winning the fight up until the late rounds in the second fight. Pavlik's been dropped a couple times and he was not just hurt by Taylor, he was hurt by Zertuche. McClellan was better at everything than Pavlik so I don't see Pavlik winning.

    McClellan KO 5 Pavlik.
     
  15. Minotauro

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    Really? He gassed bad against Watson, he was stopped legit against Eubank and was injured/ quit on the stool against Collins so it really only once maybe twice if you count Watson not sure where you got several.

    You still haven't explained why McClellan only has a punchers chance it is because Jackson and Mugabi weren't as good as people think that shouldn't effect McClellan ability. And Pavlik has never faced anyone with Jackson or Benn power Taylor and Miranda are not on that level. The fact is McClellan is bigger, harder hitter had quicker hands, better combination puncher and more battle tested against punchers yet you still believe he has little more then a punchers chance.