Gerald McClellan vs Marvin Hagler

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  1. MAG1965

    MAG1965 Loyal Member banned

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    Like someone said, Marvin did well agains punchers. He took Hearns and Mugabi's best and kept on coming against both. Roldan could punch. I like Gerald, but he was not in the level that Hagler was. If someone was going to beat Hagler, they would not knock him out.
     
  2. BoxingFanPhil

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    This.
     
  3. MadcapMaxie

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    I'd wager he hit harder than both, given the manner of his KO's he KO'd quality opponents with single grazing shots. In any case Jackson was certainly the better of either, as well as the more proven/accomplished therefore IMO would prove more dangerous.

    In this matchup however Hagler will be fighting a man with the holy trinity of physical gifts speed, power and chin in a much bigger body. A tough match up even for the Marvelous one.
     
  4. santiagoraga

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    Hagler would eat Gerald up on the inside. And that's why Hagler would take the fight there early and often.
     
  5. Theron

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    I can't believe people so quickly dismiss Hagler even blinking at a punch from McClellan but they think Hagler who was more of an attrition puncher who couldn't hit harder than Jackson would take McClellan out easily
    McClellan had as good or a little worse chin than Hagler i see Hagler only taking him out if he can exhaust McClellan over time but in the time it takes for that McClellan will be hitting Hagler that whole time and whos going to get the better of it if they're fighting or if Hagler pressures him like he did Hearns...
     
  6. Waynegrade

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    Great and very accurate post ...Hagler was one of the top middles ever... No offense Gman, but you aren`t in that conversation ...
     
  7. Waynegrade

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    Very true, he would HURT Gerald inside...
     
  8. Waynegrade

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    No it isn`t foolish. To think that the Hagler who walked through all of em in his career, doesn`t walk through everything that Jackson has ?? Never seriously hurt in his whole career ?
     
  9. MadcapMaxie

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    A naturally smaller Hearns stunned Hagler with a punch high on the temple if it landed on the sweetspot and if Hagler didn't see it coming who knows what could've happened. I think this has to be compounded with regards to Jackon and McClellan, two naturally bigger and harder punchers. Nobody and I mean nobody "walked through" Jackson's punches. Not even McClellan despite being a natural cruiser.

    Hagler was probably never seriously hurt because he was very rarely if ever hit clean on the chin particularly never hit clean while not anticipating the punch. Having an extremely good chin also helped.
     
  10. rusak

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    People doubting McClellan's ability to hurt Hagler are absolutely delusional and need to get their head out of their ass. Hagler's chin is unproven against these huge "middleweights" like McClellan, Roy Jones, etc. Day before weigh-ins became standard after Hagler retired. McClellan was huge at MW and had tremendous power. He could hurt Hagler to the head or to the body. I think Hearns could hurt Hagler too, but that fight didn't go long enough before Hearns broke his hand.
     
  11. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    McCellen had trouble making 160lbs.

    He was devastating early and he had great talent but that size that many keep pointing to is gonna be his undoing when the fight goes into the mid to late rounds against an elite EXPERIANCED opponent.

    Hagler wasnt a one shot KO puncher but we know he was heavyhanded and he would have no trouble hurting Gerald. He would grind him down into a fine powder.

    Just too many unanswered questions about McCellen. Gotta go with the proven champion.

    Marvin Hagler TKO 8th
     
  12. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    Thats true. Hagler`s bodypunching would be a key.
     
  13. ETM

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    Ah Jackson was a naturally smaller man as well. He did his best work at `54 similar to Hearns except he was nowhere near as good. The Jackson that McCellen fought was starting to lose it anyway. He was having serious eye issues and was no longer peak..

    Julian Jackson is a big name on his resume and may be one of the main reason of the overating of Gerald McCellen.
     
  14. Theron

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    Well yeah McClellans chance would be to bomb him out early something that he may be able to do...Size, strength, Punching power, speed, bodypunching, iron chin
    I would say Hagler was a more accumulation puncher but anyway if he fought McClellan he would not be getting a one shot KO in the early rounds he would need the fight to wear on get McClellan tired and then get him although McClellan would be firing everything early on while Hagler will be still trying to wear him down and he dosen't have the power to get McClellan out early.
     
  15. MadcapMaxie

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    I know Jackson was also naturally smaller best at Jnr Middle but his punch at any weight was no joke. McClellan's resume isn't exactly awe inspiring but he was a very good and particularly very dangerous fighter. He had the trifecta of boxing qualities in speed, punch and chin with alot of aggression, alot of heart , very long reach and huge at the weight making him dangerous for anyone. I picked Hagler but McClellan might prove a very tough night, possibly even decking Hagler especially if Hagler pulls the same game plan of the Hearns fight.