Gerald Mcclellan

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  1. vitesse349

    vitesse349 Active Member Full Member

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    kalambay would beat g-man? lol
     
  2. Flea Man

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    Let me guess, only seen the Nunn fight?
     
  3. lufcrazy

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    If sumbu boxed the way he did against mccallum or barkley he would be a hard fight for anyone
     
  4. teeto

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    That's the thing though, he didn't always box that well. I'm as big an admirer of Kalambay as a pure boxer as the next guy, but I wouldn't want to see him overrated. It would be a good fight, I lean towards McClellan.
     
  5. vitesse349

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    no, seen a few of his fights, mclellan would have walked through him. Benn and eubank would have beaten him too.
     
  6. Flea Man

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    I can't really think of any shoddy performances from Kalambay pre-Nunn.

    Don't see how he could be overrated either, he showed against McCallum he was one of the most skilled middleweights of all time, and had the whole package. Bar Nunn I don't remember him ever really being hurt, and as Nunn wasn't that big a puncher I'd say it's fair to say it was just one of those punches.

    I cannot see G-Man being favoured over him, the best fighters McClellan beat were straight-on bangers.
     
  7. Flea Man

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    Benn?!? Really?

    What fights of his have you seen and what fallacies do you see in his technical makeup that make those fighters favourite over him?
     
  8. teeto

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    McClellan definitely can knock him out though. We can't just say pre-Nunn as if the Nunn fight doesn't count, because it does. Kalambay was class, nobody's knocking him.
     
  9. Flea Man

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    G-Man can knock him out, but Kalambays movement, ring generalship and defencewere amongst the best of all time.

    McClellan will not get his feet in the position to land the kinda shot that Nunn did. Could he smash through him with pure power? He can to most, but I imagine he will find it very hard to time a fighter of Kalambays defensive proficiency. I don't think anyone is knocking Kalambay and wouldn'tcare either way, just don't understand how he is being given a stylistic edge when all he has is a punchers chance.

    As for pre-Nunn I would say that his prime ended there. I still gave him the win in the rematch with McCallum, he was still a gold fighter, but the Nunn fight was the beginning of the end :good
     
  10. lufcrazy

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    True story and there is every possibility that sumbu wouldn't bring his a game. But if he survives past 6 anything could happen and a sweep of the final 6 rounds isn't beyond question.
     
  11. vitesse349

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    He was a good european level operator. Never really fought a massive puncher such as benn or mclellan at 160. Struggled with barkley and we know what nigel did to him, had two close fights with graham, who jackson destroyed, and was in turn destroyed by mclellan. Simply wouldnt be able to avoid getting ko, Imo.
     
  12. icemax

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    McClellan was without doubt a beast but we are in danger here of overstating his ability on the back of two good wins against Jackson (who Graham had on the hook until caboom) and Mugabi who was completely at the end of his rope at that time. He was good but far from unbeatable as his fairly light record shows....the first time he came across a man as tough as him he got beat and crippled.
     
  13. teeto

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    Yeah I never said I favour McLellan or gave him a stylistic edge. I said two things;

    1) I feared that Kalambay may have be on the road to getting overrated if something is not said. You seem to have taken offence but I didn't even accuse you of overrating him!

    2) McLellan can knock him out, which he can. I never indicated that he would do. He can though.

    So on what I said, not on any other things, I'll conclude that it would be a good fight. Kalmbay is not guaranteed to box the way he did against McCallum. McCellan is not guaranteed to hit the target cleanly. I lean towards McClellan tbh. Either man could win it, Kalambay on the night of his life could put on the clinic.
     
  14. Flea Man

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    Struggled with Barkley? You've never seen that fight and don't talk **** and say you have, because if you had you would never have made this comment. He lost one round, the last, and absolutely took the **** out of Barkley over 15. Jackson did destroy Graham, but after being tooled beforehand. Also, ever heard of styles make fights?

    As for your 'Jackson beat Graham and lost to G-Man' McCallum stopped Jackson in two rounds....and Kalambay beat McCallum.

    A good European level operator? Really? Beat Mike McCallum with ease the first time, laid waste to DeWitt before Benn did, beat Herol Graham the first time, clearly beat Ayub Kalule, was at one point the no.1 middleweight in the World and also beat Steve Collins IMO (and had less difficulty with him than either Benn or Eubank did)

    Seriously, one of the biggest stabs in the dark I've ever seen on here.
     
  15. vitesse349

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