Gerald McLellan vs Joe Calzaghe at 168 pounds, 12 rounds.

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Shake, Feb 6, 2012.


  1. salty trunks

    salty trunks Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Mclellan was a talented fighter. He could have been a really great fighter. Like you said, he fell in love with his power. His downfall was he wasnt that smart. He wanted to run with the thugs and bought into that Don King bull**** of not needing a trainer or anyone telling him what to do.

    Typical downfall of a lot of great fighters, ignorance.
     
  2. the quiet man

    the quiet man Well-Known Member Full Member

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    like someone said on the fight of their lives documentary,
    when things started to go wrong, in the benn fight, gerald looked to his corner for advice on what to do, but because gerald was the boss who took change of his own camp, his corner just looked back at him, like your the boss, what do YOU think you should do.
    he was lost, and his corner did'nt have a clue on how to help him.
     
  3. Ali4life

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    wholeheartedly agree with this it was the same situation with Mike Tyson going on to his fight with Buster Douglas. The cornermen he had were the worst and they were a bunch of yes men who followed everything that the fighter said without saying something themselves. A lot of fighters careers have been ruined by making the mistake of going with Don King(the soul stealer). Both Gerald and Mike tried to follow bad lifestyles and it affected them in the ring. Had they have stuck with their original team maybe things would have been different maybe not
     
  4. Ren

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    well he does get outskilled by the best like Hopkins. Admittedly G-man wasnt the best in skill level, if that what you are inferring.

    I think Cal can outskill Gerald if hes careful, which is what I said in that post.
     
  5. Ren

    Ren Active Member Full Member

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    I watched the Benn-McC documentary which directly stated he had been down too long, and played the time out of the fight so that you could see it. If the documentary is wrong, then fair play to you.

    I also saw the fight but it was waay too long ago for me to use that as evidence.

    I dont think theres any definite call you can make on the fight, McC is just as likely to knock Cal over, since Calzaghe is floorable and TKO-able. Although McC faced opposition comparable to Cal, Joe deliberately never faced opposition as prime and good as McC, so its impossible to say definitely that its Cal's fight.
     
  6. salty trunks

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    Yeah King had a simple MO. He preyed on fighters and really any humans natural vulnerabilities. Most people are inherently lazy and feel they are being robbed when they become successful under someone elses guidance.

    He would tell these fighters they didnt need the people they were working with that the fighter should call all the shots in training camps and they would be their own boss. What he really meant was you can **** off all you want in training and Ill control your money and be your boss.

    So many fighters learned the hard way and Mclellan didnt like people telling him how to train. Once they get used to that lifestyle under King like Tyson and Mclellan did, they dont want to go back.
     
  7. salty trunks

    salty trunks Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I think this is a very good point regarding this fight. The only thing you can take from both fighters career is that Mclellan was very good and explosive early but unproven over the course and that Joe could box a full fight but never really faced a fighter as good and dangerous as Gerald.
     
  8. Ren

    Ren Active Member Full Member

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    its true, if he can get floored by 40 year olds then its posible he can be floored by McC, who was three times as fast as Lacey.

    I dont know how anyone can call it a done deal with Calzaghe winning no question, he's touch and go against lots of SMWs he intentionally chose to not fight. If Calzaghe is going to chose to preserve his nudefeated record then hes got to face the other side of that coin in that he can be criticised for not mixing with the best in his division.
     
  9. Bummy Davis

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  10. riggers

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    Benn was down longer than the ten count. However the ref allowed 4 or 5 shots from McClellan while Benn was only held up by the ropes, so technically already down. It was this succession of punches that pushed him through the ropes.
     
  11. Liechhardt

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    I'd lean toward Calzaghe ud.