German boxing

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by octagon, Apr 26, 2011.


  1. octagon

    octagon New Member Full Member

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    Well, i'm just a boxing fan. There are many people on this side with more knowledge of the sport an the whole game. Coming from germany, i followed boxing since the first Henry Maske fights back in the 90's. Therefore, i saw many bad decisions, but good decisions either. In the past three years i recognized a change in german judging, for example the eddie chambers vs. dimitrenko fight. In the times, when seven ottke was fighting, alexander dimitrenko would have won despite loosing the fight in the eyes of the spectators. But what really ****ed me up was the fight huck vs. lebedev.
    Man, besides the positiv change,this was once again a disgrace. Huck is not bad, but i cheered for the quiet and dedicated russian who didn't trash talk and accepted the decision in a way that earned my deepest respect. He clearly won the fight, boxing fair, no head butting or anything like that.
    I understand why americans, brits etc. have this opinion about boxing in germany. Me as a fan, i hate to hear that fighters don't come to our country cause they are afraid of beeing robbed. On the other hand I saw really bad decisions in the past few years that didn't happen in germany. For example Sturm vs de la Hoya etc.
    What I'm trying to say, bad decisions happened und are happening everywhere, not only in germany. I don't care about skin colour, from which country a fighter is, it's about boxing. By the way, you would wonder how less people in germany actually care about race..... Please, change your mind, even we are learning from mistakes. Greets
     
  2. Exactabox

    Exactabox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Greeting my fellow human. Nice post. :thumbsup
     
  3. Ukansodoff

    Ukansodoff Deontay plz stop ducking Joshua. Thank you. Full Member

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    It does happen everywhere but usually in fights that are alteast a bit close. Certain places give results that are not even arguable. Germany and Italy are bad for it and lately ive seen a couple in Canada.
     
  4. Serenata

    Serenata Fit und geimpft Full Member

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    I think (and I´ve seen) bad decisions everywhere in the world. England, USA, Germany, Italy, Mexico.... you name it.

    I honestly think that germany is not worse than many other countries concerning decisions.

    Sturm vs. ODH was a robbery
    Schulz vs. Foreman was a robbery
    Ottke vs. Reid was a robbery

    So many bad decisions because of big promotional money...
     
  5. kolokomandos

    kolokomandos GLASS IS NOT AN OPTION Full Member

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    Germany is the best at scamming people.
     
  6. sadlittleboy

    sadlittleboy Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'll throw Argentina into the mix, Solis v Lazarte was a ****ing travesty. Hopefully history doesn't repeat it's self this coming weekend.
     
  7. Nosbor

    Nosbor Boxing Addict banned

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    Germany is one of the fairest places to fight. The only real abomination I can recall was what they did to Lebedev. I had heard it was bad but just saw for myself recently. I guess the moral of the story is always try to be the house fighter.

    Italy and Spain are probably the worst.
     
  8. MaliBua

    MaliBua Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Especially Italy. That is a DISGRACE if anything...
     
  9. JunitoJab

    JunitoJab Antagonist Full Member

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  10. pahapoisu

    pahapoisu Superman! Full Member

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    The German "world champions", dont they usually bring in huge amounts of cash ?
    Im guessing thats why there are so many robberies. Its all about the money.
     
  11. left jab danny

    left jab danny Well-Known Member Full Member

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    As the old saying goes,when fighting in Germany you need to knock the guy out in order to get a draw:yep
     
  12. ThePunchingBag

    ThePunchingBag Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I am German too, but what tilts me the most is not the bad judging but the total disregard for foreign Champions.

    Lets take Sturm for example.

    German TV wants you to think that he is the undisputed #1 Middleweight in the world, I've never ever heard them acknowledge the fact that Martinez is universally recognized as the ruler of the division. Hell, I dont even think I heard his name once during the broadcasts.

    I don't think that Manny Pacquiao was ever seen or even mentioned in german TV.

    The last fight without german participation (I leave the Klits out of this bc they are recognized as being half-german around here) i saw in german TV was Mayweather - Hatton, and nobody was interested in it at all.

    Sturm had to change his name to make it sound more german bc people were scared fans wouldnt accept him under his real name Adnan Catic. Same with Marko Hukic.

    The average german boxing-fan believes that the world of boxing centers around the Klitschkos, Sturm and Stieglitz, they dont even know the best fighters of this era and this is sad and embarrassing imo.
     
  13. uraharakisuke

    uraharakisuke Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Good post. I think it's somewhat similar in the UK. Haye, Froch and Khan are well known (so are Mayweather and Pac to an extent), but ask a random person who Ward or Bradley or Adamak is and they most likely won't know.

    Then again, that's mainly the general public. Boxing is quite popular over here, and our fans are quite tuned up.
     
  14. Orbete

    Orbete Active Member Full Member

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    ...Now that's what I call "fair-play" :). I really enjoyed your post :good
     
  15. ThePunchingBag

    ThePunchingBag Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Don't get me wrong, we have knowledgable fans too, but they are a minority bc they have to go to the internet to learn about the ongoings.

    Anything that is not german just gets totally ignored in TV.

    Oh wait, i forgot, they broadcasted the Haye - Harrison farce, but again, only bc Haye was a probable foe of the Klitschkos.