German TV promoter, network doing their part to clean up the sport

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  1. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    Your argument is now getting worse. Now, it's not that blacks are more prone to cheating. Your argument is now among elites, blacks are more prone to using PEDs. Do you really want to go down this rout?
     
  2. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You tell me.

    Are you actually saying the best don't cheat? You're either being pedantic or you're a complete moron.

    Why did Jones take drugs against Hall when he was the best in the world and had no reason to worry about his opponent?
     
  3. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    Wrong again. There's little fuding in East Africa, is the reason you're saying they aren't elite sprinters. Well how come they are elite long distance runners? Furthermore, how come their West African counterparts who have so much funding are terrible at long distance running?
     
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    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    Typical sheep fan. This wouldn't have been posted had Floyd not asked for additional testing. Do as Floyd says.
     
  5. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    Hall tested positive for the same drug in that very same fight. They both tested positive for Andro which is common in many GNC products.
     
  6. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I said that earlier to save time. If you want, we could lost every boxer to get caught but by limiting it to elite fighters, I was making it simpler.

    You even ignored the question I posed to you earlier - Which race/nationality has been caught more than black Americans? Don't be pedantic and say "prove it", I want a simple answer.
     
  7. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Long distance running us the national sport in many East African countries.

    Aside from that, they are genetically good at it, so it becomes popular and recieves funding. They aren't good at sprints so it isn't popular and recieved little funding.

    The lack of funding is the reason why I didn't bring up any third world nations, because the results will always be inconclusive as the funding is irregular. For that reason, you can only really look at first world countries to get fair results.
     
  8. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    I have no idea. Unlike you, I don't make broad assumptions like that without some data to back it up. Many of your claims in this thread have been completely baseless and have been proven to be untrue. You're simply making stuff up based off of a very small observed sample. You can't say black americans are more prone to cheat than anyone else based of 3 people.
     
  9. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I know, but he didn't know his opponent would get caught, so it's besides the point.
     
  10. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You're far too pedantic :lol:

    The number of black Americans caught in athletics and boxing. From what I've heard, the number of NFL players to be caught is also disproportionately high, but I know nothing of the sport.
     
  11. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    Wrong again. The most popular sport in Kenya is soccer. Long distance running is not even that popular in Kenya, yet they dominate.

    It doesn't receive much funding. Before you said blacks are genetically faster. Well then how come that doesn't translate to East Africans? Why do East Africans lack speed but are good at long distance running, while West Africans have great speed but are not good at long distance running? There is a genetic difference, but it's not due to race. If it were race based, then all black people would enjoy the genetic benefit.

    Jamaica is a third world country. They have some of the best sprinters in the world.
     
  12. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    75% of the NFL is black.
     
  13. lillarry

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    Jose Canseco, Roger Clemens, Bill Romananski, Craig Biggio, Todd Steussie, Louis Castillo, Mark Mcgwire, Ryan Franklin and I could go on and on with non black athletes who were on PEDS.

    Any body who thinks that PEDs is mainly used by Black American's athletes is a ******
     
  14. timmyjames

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    A list of athletes caught using PED's during the 2004 summer olympics (via wiki):

    Wafa Ammouri Morocco Weightlifting Anabolic steroid

    Adrián ***** Hungary Athletics Falsified test result

    Andrew Brack Greece Baseball Stanozolol

    Viktor Chislean Moldova Weightlifting Anabolic steroid

    Róbert Fazekas Hungary Athletics Missed the test

    Mabel Fonseca Puerto Rico Wrestling Stanozolol

    Anton Galkin Russia Athletics Stanozolol

    Ferenc Gyurkovics Hungary Weightlifting Oxanfrolone (105 kg)

    Zoltan Kecskes Hungary Weightlifting Anabolic steroid

    Konstantinos Kenteris Greece Athletics Missed the test

    Albina Khomic Russia Weightlifting Testosterone

    Aye Khine Nan Myanmar Weightlifting Anabolic steroid

    Irina Korzhanenko Russia Athletics Stanozolol (shot put)

    Zoltan Kovacs Hungary Weightlifting Missed the test

    Pratima Kumari Na India Weightlifting Anabolic steroid

    Aleksey Lesnichiy Belarus Athletics Clenbuterol

    David Munyasia Kenya Boxing Cathine

    Derek Nicholson Greece Baseball Diuretic

    Cian O'Connor Ireland Equestrian Antipsychotics

    Olena Olefirenko Ukraine Rowing Ethamivan

    Leonidas Sampanis Greece Weightlifting Testosterone

    Thinbaijam Sanamcha Chanu India Weightlifting Furosemide

    Mital Sharipov Kyrgyzstan Weightlifting Furosemide

    Olga Shchukina Uzbekistan Athletics Clenbuterol

    Sahbaz Sule Turkey Weightlifting Anabolic steroid

    Ekaterini Thanou Greece Athletics Missed the test

    Ludger Beerbaum Germany Show Jumping Betamethasone


    Do Hungary and Russia have a lot of "Black Americans" representing them in the Olympics?
     
  15. Jack

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    Kenya isn't the whole of East Africa.

    "Black" was oversimplifying it, but I did say "black Americans" and they tend to be of the same descent as Jamaicans etc., making it clearer. But like I said, different regions produce different athletes. West African's are stocky and more muscular whereas Kenyan's are slight and suited to long distances.

    I know. Jamaica is the same as Kenya in that the funds are not spread evenly.