Germany: the Hotbed of Boxing

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Axe, Mar 23, 2009.


  1. Axe

    Axe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Germany could very well be the center of the boxing world at the moment, and it has been that way for a while now.

    I get sick and tired of people saying "(insert boxer) hid out in Germany his whole career" (usually regarding the great Dariusz Micahlczewski).

    Germany is on par with the USA now, in terms of big money fights. It has been that way for a very long time. If rumours of Wlad vs Haye heading to Berlin are true, then this is simply another undeniable testament to the monetary power of Germany as a boxing superpower.

    Virgil Hill vs Henry Maske was an EVENT. Dariusz Michalczewski vs Virgil Hill was an EVENT. Wladimir Klitschko vs Chris Byrd II was an EVENT. Dariusz Michalczewski vs Graciano Rochigianni II was an EVENT.

    David Haye vs Wladimir Klitschko is going to be one hell of an EVENT.

    If you are going to criticize a fighter, then:

    -criticize their opposition (Erdei)

    -criticize the validity of decisions/robberies (Ottke)

    [note: many countries are worse than Germany in terms of roberies, including Italy, Indonesia, and arguably the USA in certain cases]

    -do NOT criticize the simple fact that they are based in Germany, if neither of the above rings true


    That is all.
     
  2. RafaelGonzal

    RafaelGonzal Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Home of the great Ottke, ask Robin Reid how great German boxing is......
     
  3. andyZOR

    andyZOR Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Italy is proabably the worst place for a fighter to fight in. Especially if your opponent is Italian.

    Wlodarczyk is gonna have a tough time vs Fragomeni in Rome if it goes to the cards. I wish this fight would have been made in a neutral country like Germany.
     
  4. Axe

    Axe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Thanks for reading the first post you meathead. :patsch

    Next please.
     
  5. lzolnier

    lzolnier Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think in terms of the sheer volume of big television fights, Germany is still a distant second to the US. Maybe the gap can be closed a little now because of the severe economical/attendance issues in the States. Also, for the last 5-10 years other regions such as UK and Poland have been closing the gap with Germany in terms of having big names of their own and staging fights. In addition, German crowds tend to be pretty sterile and subdued, which takes away a bit from watching the fight. Lastly, it is a demographic challange for a country of 80 million or so people to compete with another country of 300 million.
     
  6. Arriba

    Arriba Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Germany puts on great events. Pagentry and all that is top notch and it's what boxing in the United States used to do in the late 90s. I just can't help but feel a little disturbed at how quiet their crowds can be more often than not. A lot of the times you can't help but feel like they're sleeping through the event. Reminds me very much of japan crowds in terms of their politeness to the fighters.

    I'd like to see Haye-Wlad have a more soccer-esque crowd feel to it. Know what I mean?
     
  7. Haye

    Haye Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The hell it is.
     
  8. ChuckYoungblood

    ChuckYoungblood Active Member Full Member

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    I agree. Vitali - Gomez had 11 mill viewers in Germany alone. That's impressive.
     
  9. thespecialone

    thespecialone Active Member Full Member

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    It isnt and never will be, American TV runs boxings bigger shows and while they do the centre of boxing will never be anywhere else.

    The fights you mentioned that have been events are spread out over time whereas fights of that magnitude happen frequently in the USA.

    Germany is very capable of holding an event but fighters wont go their either because theyre worried about robberies/cheating like what happened to Robin Reid or Danny Williams and Showtime or HBO wont payout big money for fighters to fight in Germany other than the top named fighters and the Klitschkos are the only A listers based in Germany.
     
  10. Axe

    Axe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yes. And is Gomez even a mainstream challenger? No. :good
     
  11. Axe

    Axe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ahmet Oener is a cheating scumbag and a crook for ringing that bell, let's leave him out of this please. He just became a big fish in the last 1-2 years.
     
  12. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    Danny Williams fight was in Spain.
     
  13. thespecialone

    thespecialone Active Member Full Member

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    To be fair it happened in Germany and in a response to your thread its one reason that makes Germany a less attractive place for big names, this sort of thing wont be overlooked even though its only happened once people will see it as being a risk not worth taking.
     
  14. thespecialone

    thespecialone Active Member Full Member

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    Ok but was it not against a German and a Germans team who cheated?
     
  15. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    Technically it was against a Kazakh, promoted by a Turk, refereed by a Spaniard under the jursidiction of the Austrian boxing board of control...