Gerry Cooney .vs. prime Ken Norton

same result but he might last a little longer i think but then again he also wouldn't have the experience he had in that fight
i think cooney stops him, even in nortons prime.

 

I would have to agree here. Styles of the fighters and Cooneys devastating power still gets Norton out of there semi-conscious.

 

Cooney KO 1

 

I forgot that Cooney himself apparently has an iron chin and Norton can't punch and isn't in the same league as far as skill anyway. :roll:...Ali's Norton beats Cooney 9 out of 10 and probably stops him. Because of his superiority.

 

A big punching Cooney wins at any stage of Norton's career.

 

norton isn't a huge puncher.
and as far as skilled is concerned cooney is ahead in that department as well.
norton would be too prone to get stopped and I don't see many other ways that norton beats cooney

 

Now, Cooney is more skilled than Ken Norton? ...This thread is great. And I didn't say Norton was a "huge" puncher. But he could clearly punch and Cooney didn't have a particularly good beard himself. Anyway, Norton. Norton, Norton, Norton. It's no shocker that one of them was a champion and one of them wasn't. Why one of them is a hall of famer and one of them isn't. Why one of them beat a young version of Ali and the other would never be favored to do so by anyone with a brain. Why one of them took Holmes to a split decision while being well past his best and the other was stopped against him while a young 25-0 hyped up super killer. The quality was very different.

 

Yeah. Norton's a better fighter,overall than Cooney and deserves a higher rating in any all time list,but it's a style thing. Cooney would always be a nightmare for Ken.

 

Cooney would always take Norton , but the fight would last longer and be stopped in the fifth round.

 

Norton is a very different kettle of fish than Lyle. At peak, Ron could box, move, and counter off the ropes with as deadly a puncher as Shavers (where he finally outlasted Earnie).

There is nothing in Ken's career to suggest he ever could have prevailed against Cooney, or even survive into the middle rounds. He did not rematch Garcia until the lazy Jose was well past it, and had porked on 25 pounds. Between 1970 and 1979, the only fast starting huge puncher he took on was Foreman, and then only because George held the title. (Meanwhile, Lyle and Shavers were taking on each other, and both took on a prime Jerry Quarry and Jimmy Young. Ron and Earnie ducked nobody.) Mac Foster would have been an interesting test for Norton. (Bob Foster too, for that matter, considering that Bob was the same height and weight for Frazier that Garcia was when he knocked Ken out.)

When Gerry did stun Norton into the panicked realization that, "This guy can hurt me!," he did it with his less heralded right hand. Ken wasn't all that far gone, as his previous outing with Cobb had demonstrated. The fact is that he never really had the punch resistance, defensive skill or mental toughness necessary to withstand that kind of early attack, let alone the kind of mobility to evade it.

According to issboxWRECK, Ken was down a total of 13 times in his career, and he didn't have the resilience of a true great like Patterson (who showed in the rubber match with Ingo that he could be extremely dangerous when hurt). No prominent heavyweight of his era was as susceptible to a particular brand of opponent as Norton was to fast starting sluggers.

 

Once Norton is on the ropes...it's all over but the cryin'.

 

Cooney is more skilled than Norton?

What the ****

A prime top ten all time heavyweight in George Foreman is the only one to stop Norton when Ken was anywhere even NEAR his prime. But every time he's matched with a puncher in these matchups (forget the quality of the puncher) it's the same nonsense that he's getting stopped in 1 round or two. He essentially beat Ali two out of three times and is a hall of famer but Gerry "I never beat a live body in my entire life" is going to beat him like a red headed stepchild?

No. People say guys like Ike and Tua are over rated but at least they beat some actual good fighters.

 

I'll second this post.

 

I don't get it either. Cooney was a decent fighter. He was bigger and a much harder puncher for sure, but I think that's where it ends. Even though neither were at their best, it's funny that Cooney was stopped in two against Foreman also. Worse even.