Gerry Cooney vs Sam Peter

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  1. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Jesus where does one begin with these two.
     
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  2. NoNeck

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    Peter never got a brutal stoppage loss to a blown up light heavy.
     
  3. lloydturnip

    lloydturnip Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Peter was easy to hit and slow .He gets sparked early rnds.Cooney could really hit hard .Would be target practise .
     
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  4. NoNeck

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    There’s nothing Cooney could do that Wlad couldn’t.
     
  5. dinovelvet

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    Wrong.. Cooney had a great dig to the body.. Wlad knew nothing about body shots.
     
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  6. NoNeck

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    Cooney never stopped any good fighter with it.
     
  7. dinovelvet

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    Cooney had one of the best left hooks to the body that folded guys in half. Whether they were good or not doesn't matter. It was a great punch and an example of something Cooney could do that Wlad couldn't.
     
  8. NoNeck

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    It speaks volumes that you of all people can only come up with that, and you admit the guys he beat with a body attack sucked.
     
  9. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Cooney's attacks to Lyle's body were fairly evident, from the get go; pretty much taking away whatever legs the old soldier had left in him, inside a couple of minutes. Lyle, now more or less immobile, was crumpled by the final Left to the body from Cooney.

    Old as Lyle was (and as likely as a Cooney win might have been), I don't think anybody had done that to him before.
     
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  10. janitor

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    I would have to say that Peter is more proven at the highest level, and this might well be enough to justify making him favorite.
     
  11. NoNeck

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    Lyle was totally finished a contender by the time that happened.
     
  12. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Cooney was a better short-range fighter than Wlad, in my opinion. Wlad really had no inside game - he just held and lent/pushed down on his opponents. Quite often, he would lurch forward, reach and grab for his opponent to instigate the stalemate in the action, eliciting intervention from the referee - this was pretty much a staple of his defense.

    Conversely, Cooney had a lot of room for improvement at long range. He certainly needed to develop a better jab (which he rarely bothered with) and his Right-Hand, with which he was not naturally predisposed to use to throw power shots.
     
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  13. Man_Machine

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    Oh - Lyle was pretty much shot. However, the points are that Cooney more or less won the bout with a series of assaults to the body, within a round, and that no one before Cooney had done that to Lyle.

    I'm not really giving credit to Cooney for the win. He was expected to win, for obvious reasons. But, I think that perhaps the manner of victory, in the context of this discussion, is worthy of note.
     
  14. NoNeck

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    Yeah, I was thinking about it more along the lines that there’s nobody I’d expect Cooney to slump over that Wlad wouldn’t do the same to.
     
  15. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Two things:

    1. I need to find an example of Wlad beating anyone using body shots as his primary line of attack (and if you have one, I would genuinely like to be made aware of it so I can watch it).

    2. Wlad might well have been able to beat everyone Cooney did, but that doesn't necessarily mean Cooney couldn't do a better job with Peter than Wlad did.
     
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