Gerry Cooney vs Wladimir Klitschko

Probably so, but how well do you think Holmes would do with today's "elite"?

 

And Holmes had a great era?

Actually, his era did have some pretty good fighters, Page, Witherspoon, Dokes, Coetzee.. :yep

 

You are right. I wanted to say that Foreman wasn't exactly in his prime either, but that still doesn't compare to a Ross The Boss.

The thing is, we have very little to judge Cooney on. Before the Holmes fight, he showed great power but didn't face any live contenders (still, the way he thrashed Norton and Lyle was impressive). And after the Holmes fight he never was the same so it's hard to judge him there as well. The only thing left then is the Holmes fight. He indeed had some good moments, but the way he was being outboxed doesn't make me confident in picking him over Wlad. Did he even land a single left hook on Holmes' chin? He landed very good body shots in the 4th but other than that it was all Holmes if i remember correct. Holmes could dance, but most fights he was mostly on the backfoot and the way he did just that against Cooney is nothing Wlad can't do - footwork wise.

My point about brining up the Foreman fight was that basically anyone who landed on him, stopped him. Holmes had him in trouble with the first right hand (and he's not half the puncher Wlad is) that he landed but kept to his safe game plan, letting Cooney off the hook. Spinks was a huge puncher at LHW but at HW never proved it. I remember Cooney having a good 3&4th round, but Spinks stopping Cooney rather unexpected and easily in the 5th.
I'm not saying Wlad is very durable, but certainly he's a lot more proven than Cooney in that (and every other) department.

That is a very high chance for someone who has never beaten a live contender (correct me if i'm wrong), is a one-handed puncher and doesn't have a chance in hell to outbox Wlad. A 50% punchers chance is very high, especially considering the trouble he had landing on Holmes. But if you see it that way, fair enough.

 

exactly the way i would see it.

 

exactly the way i would see it

 

I think that he would crucify them all. Wlad is the only one whio would be competitive against him.

Can you imagine what he would do to sombody like Sam Peter or Oleg Maskaev?

It would be cruelty to children.

 

Wlad, by reasonably comfortable UD. Cooney does have that 'punchers chance', however.

 

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If Wlad does what he did to Pulev then it's over in 2.

 

I don't think so. He was built up as a big left hook guy but against anyone good he was hit and stopped. I think even Tim Witherspoon stops him in 4.

 

Cooney has a good chance against Wlad (up to 2004). Not much chance at all against later Wlad.

 

Could go either way. Two good punchers with flaws. There is nobody that Wlad beat that Cooney wouldn't probably have beaten as well.

 

Dangerous fight for Klitschko, a guy with the same height, probably a bit more in arm length, and a guy with a lot of power. Klitschko needs to take him in the middle rounds, plus Cooney's going to be hitting him with wicked body punches. I like Cooney in 1-4, if Wlad can outbox him, Wlad gets him in 5-7.

 

Im kind of partial to cooney since he's also a Irishman that's converted orthodox, prime for prime wlad beats him, wlad was much more of a complete boxer than cooney, I think cooney was a bigger example of wasted talent than Bowe was, he was tall, explosive, had a great jab, left hook and murderous body punches, I think if he learned to use his right hand even slightly more and worked on his defence and stamina he would easily been one of the greatest boxers we've ever seen.

If so many lesser punchers were able to knock wlad out and he wasn't used to fighting a taller opponent I'll give cooney a decent punchers chance and pray he gets it, but I'd expect wlad either stops him late or wins by u.d. wlad could definitely get the knock out but lacked a killers instinct and was always wanting to out point his opponents.