Gerry Cooney wrecks Eddie Gregg

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  1. TheGreatA

    TheGreatA Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Cooney looks pretty formidable still in 1986, despite all the rumours about what direction his life was taking at this point in his career.

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quJMLgWpE40[/ame]
     
  2. Cobra33

    Cobra33 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If Cooney had proper management he would have gone all the way.He had the power plus he had a great trainer-his managers while brillant in getting Cooney paydays didn't match him up with opponents like they should have and often turned down oppoents that Cooney could beat but would have been tested.His management was horrible in that sense.
     
  3. Bummy Davis

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    Great A, you are bring back memories, I was at this fight as well
     
  4. tommygun711

    tommygun711 The Future Full Member

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    i have this fight. Cooney still looked pretty good despite the beatdown from holmes
     
  5. zadfrak

    zadfrak Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Eddie Gregg's best days were long since over though. it was real hard to gauge Cooney based on this because it was like his other bouts where he seldom took on live bodies. He just flat out didn't face many guys at all that simply were not a prohibitive underdog with little chance going into the fight.A guy like a Frank Bruno would've been a much riskier fight at the time or an 86 version of Cobb even. Then, maybe Cooney has to dig deep for the win and you can guage the guy.
    Instead you got this and then it was Mike Spinks who was a huge step up in class--and a guy displaying winning form--and it just seemed like just a huge step he had to take when he finally did step up.
     
  6. TheGreatA

    TheGreatA Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Gregg was coming off a win over Cobb.
     
  7. john garfield

    john garfield Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Soon as i read this thread, the memory of that night in San Francisco came flooding back. Tommy Gallagher recruited me for Gregg's corner when his regular second couldn't be there.
     
  8. Duodenum

    Duodenum Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Did anybody else make note of which hand Cooney floored Brown with at 1:24?
     
  9. tommygun711

    tommygun711 The Future Full Member

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    it was the right hand haha
     
  10. Duodenum

    Duodenum Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    And a sharp one that really snapped Brown's head. Cooney worked hard with Valle to develop his right, and it paid off. He initially stunned Norton with a right, tore open Young's face with a long right in mid ring, then flattened Brown with it. Like Coetzee's hook, it became an underrated weapon in his arsenal, but he was never active enough to fully establish it as a viable alternative to his left in the public mind.
     
  11. tommygun711

    tommygun711 The Future Full Member

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    and don't forget he uses it effectively on young's body
     
  12. Duodenum

    Duodenum Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He was credited for digging it well to the body prior to Young, but described as looking awkward when aiming it at the head. He did unload a few good ones at Young's head before the cut, signs of progress Clancey was looking for and commenting on. He really needed it for Holmes though, and it just wasn't there when it mattered most.
     
  13. tommygun711

    tommygun711 The Future Full Member

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    also keep in mind he's a converted orthodox even though he's lefthanded
    so that's probably why his right hand isn't so devestating. if he had trained more for the holmes fight and if he had took some tougher fights on his way up... he could've been a real force.
     
  14. MRBILL

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    Ed Gregg was as green as the grass is in the Spring time in '86....... Gregg was made-to-order for Cooney like a Subway sandwhich...... Cooney KO 1 Gregg......... No surprise there.....

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  15. Duodenum

    Duodenum Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He needed a ten round rematch with Eddie Lopez, maybe a match with George Chaplin five years before they actually fought, or Cobb, tough men with little power who could extend him, and build his confidence in his stamina. Like Coetzee, doubts about his endurance plagued him with grievous consequences, and he admitted that these concerns very adversely effected his performance against Holmes. A 1981 rematch with Young could have been enormously helpful as well. Ocasio risked a return with Jimmy, and attained high career rewards as a result, getting national television exposure with Holmes and drawing with Dokes before remaking himself into the first established CW Champion. Gerry always raved about how much he learned in just four rounds with Young. I'd have expected him to pursue and jump at the opportunity to learn more.