Gerry Penalosa vs Hozumi Hasegawa

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  1. WhataRock

    WhataRock Loyal Member Full Member

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    Who wins the battle of the two best at bantam?
     
  2. HyperBone

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    Hasegawa UD12.. penalosa usually has problems with tall lanky boxers who are mobile.. and for sure this fight will happen in japan, wherein very close decisions usually favor their resident boxers
     
  3. Boxing Fanatic

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    Hasegawa. The dude seems to be legit.
     
  4. Kush

    Kush Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Gerry by KO
     
  5. WhataRock

    WhataRock Loyal Member Full Member

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    If it happens in Japan, which it more then likely will, I can see Gerry losing it..even if he really deserved it, which may not happen anyway but however it pans out I think its an uphill battle for Penalosa to bag a decision in Japan.

    His style has never been about overwhelmingly winning rounds and that has seen him get jobbed a few times..the judges just dont seem to like his approach.
    I think he also is slowing down ever so slightly.

    Hasegawa is alright, a little limited but very solid nonetheless..His youth and hometown advantage might get him over the line...But you can never count out Gerry, he is a nightmare for anyone.
     
  6. WhataRock

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    Well...Gerry has been facing bigger guys most of his career and has generally found a way to deal with them or at the very least be highly competitive.
    Hasagawa is 2 inches taller and only has an inch of reach on him..and Ive never considered him a boxer who is all that mobile.
    He seems to mostly edge forward on the front foot but sometimes on the backfoot aswell. But I havent seen hims consistently moving around or making sweeping moves in most of the film Ive seen him in..He patiently waits for openings for his left hand but also will brawl on the inside when he has to.

    Doesnt, to me, seem like a guy with the style or physically advantages that Gerry hasnt seen before.
     
  7. bulakenyo

    bulakenyo Am I a boxing fan yet? Full Member

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    I have seen Gerry fight all these years, and he's a really good boxer, counterpuncher, and has good power, but because of his physical build, (small, short arms, stocky) he's had a lot of trouble knocking down tall, lanky, pure boxers who dont want to engage.

    He fought for the WBC superflyweight title 4 times, back in the 1990's.
    Twice against In joo cho, and twice against Tokuyama. He lost all 4 fights by 12 round decision in Korea and Japan.

    Gerry's got good defense, and a good chin. He's never been knocked down in his career. But when he faces a tall, lanky boxer who hits and runs, hits and clinches, and fights very, very conservatively, (just 1-2's all night, while backpedalling) he's got problems beating them.

    By the middle to late rounds, his opponents have racked up enough rounds to win the fight as long as they dont get KTFO. They then fight very cautiously. Gerry has enough power to knock people out, but if you choose to hit and run, dont engage and backpedal away for the remainder of the fight, you'll win the fight.

    He's got a hard time rallying back for a KO, unless you make a mistake and get too close to him.
     
  8. Flea Man

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    Hasegawa would win by decision.
     
  9. WhataRock

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    Yeah agree with that...Ponce De Leon used that strategy to stay out of trouble later in their fight and Gonzalez had a lot of success with it until he got caught, though I only had him a couple of points up.

    Just didnt think Hasagawa fit the bill...Then again he can be quite patient and cautious, Hypebone might be right. He just seems more grounded to me then that sort of fighter and isnt that much bigger then Gezza.
     
  10. bulakenyo

    bulakenyo Am I a boxing fan yet? Full Member

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    I'm always rooting for Gerry, and I think if he was only blessed with a bigger body structure, he would have been the most successful boxer to come out of the Philippines.

    I remember watching the Tokuyama fights. That dude was kinda dirty. Sneaky headbutts, clinching a lot. Gerry was rocking him with good shots from time to time, but Tokuyama just wasnt the type to mindlessly fight back when hit. He just stuck with the gameplan.

    Stick and move, stick and move, Clinch. Push away, jab, jab. Headbutt.

    I was watching the fight in a shopping mall, outside an appliance store, (back in the late 90's) and I was willing Gerry to just go all out and go for a KO. He was often just inches short of landing his haymaker. He was just a bit too small to be able to connect on a backpedalling, super defensive opponent.

    I was so frustrated with Tokuyama's style of boxing that I almost threw my hat on the shop window.

    I knew Gerry needed a KO, or multiple KDs for him to win the crown.

    He just couldnt reach far enough.
     
  11. WhataRock

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    They were closely fought fights..Ive always rated Tokuyama, he is a very talented boxer.

    He was just as hard to deal with as Gerry because he always kept bouncing around, engaging and bouncing out...Intense, well schooled and an excellent athlete..But he didnt have much a tactical plan, he just did what he did and that usually got him rounds, so he kept doing it until he got tired..I reckon just about every fight that goes 12 with him Ive seen Tokuyama has lost the last round as he fades later on.
    But he generally had it wrapped up by that stage...the Penalosa fights were close, I think I gave one to Gerry.
     
  12. bulakenyo

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    Yeah, I knew that Gerry did well, but the fight was in Japan.

    I knew that he wouldnt win a close decision there. He needed a TKO, or multiple KDs in the final rounds to make sure.

    As far as Filipino boxers are concerned, the worst asian countries judges decisions are from..

    1.Thailand
    2.Japan
    3.Korea
     
  13. WhataRock

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    Some of the decisions they have had go against them in Australia must have them thinking its not a preferred destination.

    Though I have seen some aussie based filos get the fair nod.
     
  14. bulakenyo

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    They dont show enough oz based Filipino boxers here on Philippine TV.

    I've seen a couple of Dondon Sultan fights, and a couple of Ranee Ganoy fights. Not a lot. Fans seem to like them there.

    Anyway, I hope Gerry makes a couple more bigtime fights, because I heard him say that he's ready to retire soon.

    I think he wants a DPDL rematch or a Juanma fight.
     
  15. theunderdog

    theunderdog Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    gerry is better off fighting mexicans and thais. he does not do very well with oriental fighters such as choo and tokuyama.