"Gervonta is 22 years old, he is too young he isn't ready yet"

When he blows through Nicholas Walters or Berchelt, I'll call him elite. He's talented yeah. It's hard to gauge guys when they've been fighting chumps. I give him Pedraz, but Pedraza fought a stupid arse fight.

 

Get a world "title" belt, face the best or GTFO

 

Just because Lomachenko's handlers were dumb, doesn't mean Davis' handlers should be dumb too.

 

The fighters who lose usually fight the fight the better fighter makes them fight. Always exceptions, I just feel he's much better than them so beating them to me doesn't change him as a fighter. It enhances his resume but training and sparring bigger and better fighters, smaller and faster fighters is what crafts the elite fighters.

That's how I've always seen, or felt how it works.

 

Tyson also had one of the greatest brains in boxing shape and mold him for years, adopt him, become his father. When Mike exploded on the scene he'd already graduated from Cus' school of boxing. Prospects today, are like ball players coming out of highschool. They just are not ready for the NBA, which is why the NBA mandated rules/limits on handling of kids coming out of HS. They just are not ready, not enough schooling in the art of boxing, etc.

 

youngest ever. that means it is almost impossible to do.

 

being a titleholder these days is not the same as being a champ back in the day...pedraza was not the best at that weight class. davis will be champ one day, but for now, he's still a work in progress...and you can't compare any two fighters, or wlad at 41 would have handled joshua like hopkins handled pavlik.

 

I'm curious if Gervonta is getting fed up with Floyd taking all his spotlight. After all it was him who got in the ring, not Floyd.

I wonder if at some point he'll reach a breaking point and tell Floyd to shut up or leave him lol

 

Not everyone develops at the same rate. By that Tyson logic everyone would be ready to be a world champion by 20 years old.

I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you're trolling and not just stupid.

 

YDKSAB. 2 pounds is a lot if you can't lose it. It kills you, brings you down.

And don't get me started about the fight. Chin check? More like Nut check.

Hype? Jesus, you're a clown.

 

Yeah, they were so dumb that with that loss to Salido, Lomechenko gained better pro experience than GRJ did in his 24 fights against 24 no hopers, which was clearly shown in thier fight.

Canelo's handlers must've been dumb too for throwing him in with Floyd at a young age, but guess what? Canelo only got better with that experience, and his name value got much bigger.

Sullivan Barrera's handlers must've been dumb too for throwing him in with Ward with only 17 fights under his belt, but guess what? Barrera looked much better after that experience than he ever did before.

Davis steps up against Lomachenko, he probably loses his 0. So what? He'll come back better than ever. A fight against Loma would be a better learning experience than any other fight he'll take against a fringe contender.

"0" on the record doesn't mean ****.

 

You picked an extreme example in Tyson to try and establish the norm. So points deducted for that alone. And each fighter is different and develop at their own pace. If he's still not fighting the very best in two years or so, then I'd agree with what you're suggesting. But as of now, it's way too early to be hinting at ducking.

And the 'he's a world champ' he should take on anyone argument is kinda tepid too. There are so many world straps now, having one doesn't necessarily place a boxer at the very top of his division and the way different governing bodies align with different networks and promoters actually hinders matchmaking at the highest level. Give the boy some time to grow...

 

Wouldn't mind seeing him fight Farmer next.

Hes not ready for Lomachenko yet...frankly, he may never be, but at least give him a year or two to develop

 

so by your logic all 22 year old fighters are as good as Tyson?

I'd say the only thing gervonta is obligated to do as titleholder is fight mandatories and defend vs rated guys

I hope that after a few more defences vs top guys he will take on the other titlists

I don't advocate for ducking or belts not unifying but I think it's funny seeing belt holders held to different stsndards

 

The WBC/WBA situation seems tied up for a while.
I assume the Berchelt-Miura, Corrales-Castellanos winners are being set up to unify against each other