Gervonta Tank Davis is a special fighter! End off

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  1. Kamikaze

    Kamikaze Bye for now! banned Full Member

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    "Can't box for ****" dude, he is a world class boxer do you even compete?
     
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  2. f1ght3rz

    f1ght3rz Ronaldoooo is crying in his caaaaaar Full Member

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    Tank has something special about him for sure. He's a grinder. And he has game changing power.

    BUT.

    Let's keep it real.

    Barrios isn't elite level. Barrios is a decent B level fighter with some nice assets like size, height and boxing skills but he's nothing special. Akhmedov beat him. And Akhmedov isn't exactly a A level prospect. Tank would run through him.

    Tank still has to fight an elite fighter at 135 and 140.

    And yeah...he has something special about him but we can not say how special he really is while fighting B and C level guys forever.
     
  3. UFC2020

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    Plz that was hardly a Mike Tysonisque performance
     
  4. MidniteProwler

    MidniteProwler Fab 4. Mayor of Aussie Boxing Full Member

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    Yeah he is but he needs to go back to 135 I rate Loma, Tank, Kambosos and Lopez as the top 4 at lightweight.
     
  5. Maidanas Gun Tattoo

    Maidanas Gun Tattoo Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Didn’t want to say it but that’s exactly what it is.
     
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  6. Hanz Cholo

    Hanz Cholo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    i prefer thst aspect of the UFC
    Not when it resorts to the “grabassing” / rolling around on top of each other on the ground.
    Not a fan of that aspect.

    Davis is one of the best (on PBC)
    & he is fighting the best (on PBC)

    Crazy how all of this back & forth started because I think Tank’s Phenomenal power makes him special.
    (Which it does)

    I’m Not saying it makes him better then any of your designated “Saviors of Boxing” just saying it makes him special.
    as in NOT an average run of the mill journey man.
     
  7. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    There's more to boxing than PBC. He's competed in 3 divisions, he needs to fight the best in those divisions.

    This didn't start because of your love of his power lol, I replied to the thread saying he's a special fighter, by saying he hadn't proved himself a special fighter yet.
     
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  8. aaaaa

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    What decent 130-140 PBC fighters are left that he hasn't fought? Fortuna, Prograis?

    Not a great look that they're pretty much ruling out fighting Loma, Lopez, Garcia, Haney, Taylor etc.
     
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  9. Dodgy Syrup

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    lol...you calling someone else "not very bright" is hilarious.

    I could say I also find your presumptions to be insulting, but the truth is I don't really care.

    Out of interest, what exactly are these "motives" you think I have?

    Please, say it.
     
  10. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council banned Full Member

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    Maybe you do maybe you don’t I really don’t care. Perhaps the more pertinent question you should ask yourself is why do you presume Tank is stupid and dumb and has no say in his career. Would you think the same about Lomachenko? If the answer is No then ask your conscience why? As for Floyd your management, your promoter and your team should have a big say in your career. As for being overbearing Floyd’s advice during the fight motivated Tank encouraging him to be great. I have interacted enough with you to know you are not all bad and certainly there are far worse than you. If you simply don’t like Tank and Floyd saying so and be honest about it but what you cannot question is their success and the one thing they are not is stupid or dumb.
     
  11. Dodgy Syrup

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    Why don't you cut to the chase?

    Are you suggesting I'm judging Davis differently because he's black?

    If that's what you think, at least be man enough to say it.

    You are wrong, and perhaps it speaks more to your own prejudice that you make assumptions like that.

    Regardless, I have made no comment on Davis other than in the context of his relationship with Floyd.

    I stand by my gut feeling that Floyd is trying to control his career in a stifling, overbearing manner.

    An article came out today where Floyd said Davis will only fight other Mayweather/PBC fighters, and only if it makes sense to the team.


    Sorry, but Gervonta is a grown man, a fighter, and he needs to stand up to Mayweather and tell him "it's my career and I call the shots".

    I'm not convinced he will do that.

    I hope he does...as a boxing fan, we need to see him facing the other top guys and proving his mettle.

    Not fighting Mayweather stooges and handpicked bums to stage manage a path to a title.
     
  12. African Cobra

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    You making judgments about things you know nothing about is the key thing here. As for your motives only you know what they are. They might be innocent, reckless, evil, genuine concern based on love who knows. As I have explained to you Floyd is his promoter, mentor and Tank his protege. Tank clearly has the major say in his career because he not his promoters or management chose Barrios. Check on YouTube and you will see Leonard Ellerbe confirm this many times. The old method favoured by a Bob Arum is that fighters should fight whilst the promoter decides the direction of their career choosing who they fight and when. All Floyd is saying why should we go elsewhere when there is more bread to be generated on our side of the fence and you don’t have the hassle of joint promotion with a Top Rank who are notoriously difficult to do business with. Remember Mayweather Promotions had agreed for Tank to fight Ryan crybaby Garcia after he called Tank out publicly. When they accepted Ryan crybaby Garcia suddenly developed mental health anxiety issues. I guess replays of Tank’s knockouts can do that to someone. Tank and Floyd sometimes bump heads but they are aligned like a father and son. Tank is selling out arena’s and a PPV star ditto Erroll Spence, the Charlo brothers etc. Then see how poorly Bud Crawford is promoted and to an extent the multi talented Lomachenko. Even Teofimo Lopez has gone to the Trilla platform to get serious money against Kambossoss when Arum won’t pay the going rate.
     
  13. Dodgy Syrup

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    So, for the third time, are you saying there is no credence to idea that Mayweather is controlling his career in an overbearing manner?

    You still haven't actually answered.

    All you've done is blathered on about random stuff, make snide assumptions and then acted like they aren't important 3 lines later.

    You keep saying he has some control, which isn't the question.

    The question is, again, are you saying there is no evidence that Floyd is controlling his career in an overbearing manner.

    Don't play word games, just answer.

    I'm more than happy to acknowledge I'm wrong, if you can provide something other than your own opinion.

    Because, I believe i could provide footage, articles etc...that may lend some weight to my argument.

    So, either liven yourself up and answer the specific question or there's no point continuing this.
     
  14. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council banned Full Member

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    My answer to your question is a Big NO since you could not deduce that from my comments which was to give you context.
     
  15. Dodgy Syrup

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    Right.

    What I deduced was that you offered reasons WHY their relationship may not be that way - not that there is no truth to my suggestion.

    You state that it is simply a father figure offering gentle persuasion and friendly advice, that Davis had a hard life and didn't have anyone to watch his back etc...and there is no more to it than that.

    I say that's bull turd.

    However, you did, at least, answer a direct question with a direct answer, and that is all I asked.

    The fact you refuse to acknowledge any evidence to the contrary is strange, but whatever.

    For posterity, my position is that Mayweather tells Davis what to do.

    I think he dictates his training regime, oversees his financial affairs, monitors his associates, decides who he fights, who he most definitely won't fight, and does so in a overtly protective, overbearing manner.

    This is my personal opinion.

    If we see stuff in the future that confirms this I'll be vindicated.

    If we see stuff that makes it impossible to accept, I'll acknowledge i got it wrong.

    That's the end of the matter, at least as far as I'm concerned.

    P.S if you are in the U.K there is talksport article today that shows the extent of Mayweather's influence.

    Floyd effectively rejects any idea of Davis facing the guys we all think he should.

    If that's a positive influence then maybe we see the world differently.

    Gervonta needs to get out from under him or he'll regret it.
     
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