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Not saying Warren isn't scum (he is) but Krassyuk said they wanted 70-30 in the rematch (we don't even know Fury wanted a rematch and there's good reason to think he doesn't) if they won (the rematch in that case being more lucrative), which was a non-starter.

 

"Question is who will secure the Saudi money in Winter?

Fury AJ?
Fury Usyk?
Fury Wilder 4?

Usyk must be worried he is going to get stiffed here.

All roads lead to Fury. Tommy Fury.[/QUOTE] "


The funniest thing now is that if AJ fights Tyson Fury, I'd be rooting for the big stiff Idiot to knock Queen Gypsy out.

Ha ha.

And I'm no AJ fan.

 

Saying again: the rematch was agreed (came from Fury's side, just as he suggested no rematch and suddenly Usyk became a rematch guy after 19 fights - I won't count his AJ case, as he had no choice) on both sides at the end, what was left is the split. But if 70:30 for the winner in a second fight appears somehow fair to the 70:30 for Fury in the first, no matter the outcome, the big question is where that second fight would be? As 70:30 in UK is by far not the same as 70:30 in Saudi Arabia, so is fair in no way - should be per personal agreement or 50:50. And what did Usyk do in the last moment - decided to pull away.

 

At the end of the day I want to see the fight. My standard with team Joshua was that they should have offered Wilder and Fury 50-50 and it's the same with Fury now. If team Fury was willing to go 50-50 with Usyk, the fight would happen soon (similar to Klitschko-Haye or Fury-Wilder 1). I'm still hopeful the fight will happen before it's meaningless but I don't have any strong conviction that it will.

 

If that is true then Fury is a true wanker. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. Who the hell does Fury think he is to demand a 50/50 split when he dogged Usyk into a 70/30. The piece of ****.

 

Eastern Europeans are the most screwed boxers in the sport.

 

For me, the fight is not happening this year, if ever, because Usyk will now procrastinate his mandatory and the year will end, as he fights once per year. I doubt it'll be for all the belts which I don't care because it'll show it's always the fighters that are bigger than the belts - even better to be so.

 

Krassyuk has no problem with 70/30 split. The man openly admitted to being happy with the terms Frank offered him during the talk radio interview. These are his words not mine.
The issue is with the rematch terms. Not the 70/30 split. Weeks of Fury bashing has blinded people to the fact that its Fury's side who is putting the money up for the fight. All Usyk has to do is turn up and be accommodated with hotels and training facility which Fury side and Frank have to organize.

Furys side also have to hire out Wembley Stadium , pay the insurance and security costs. Furys side is bringing the network and PPV model. Fury and BT pay for all the advertising and marketing. One again , all Usyk has to do is turn up. This is why Krassyuk and Usyk had no problems accepting 70/30 for the first fight. Its the rematch where everything went wrong.

 

Usyk priced himself out just as much as Fury did with the rematch Ts and Cs. Neither of them wanted to do it for less than they've previously made.

 

The US paid Mayweather and Pacquiao and Mayweather and Canelo more money than the Saudis have ever paid any couple of boxers for a fight.

The problem is Fury can't fight here because of his mob affiliation.

Fury is the one who is "stuck." He can't get the Saudis to pay him what he wants, and he can't fight in the US.

So he's stuck fighting in the UK, where he always has to pick someone who is willing to give away 85-90% of the cut.

 

If Joshua wins Saturday (which is likely), and Fury is there and hops into the ring (which is likely) ... then the likely fight will be Fury-Joshua.

Eddie already hammered out a deal there for these two, earlier. It probably won't take a whole lot to get a new one done. Hearn just keeps bringing up that "he's the only one" who ever got a deal done there to reiterate to Fury that he (Hearn) can make the fight, but it all depends on Eddie, so Fury can leave his "demands" at home.

Fury will get what Eddie decides he get - which will likely be a 50-50 split. If Fury starts screwing around, Eddie might even offer him the shorter end.

The three biggest egos in boxing are at play when Fury-Joshua-Hearn are involved. They'll all want to take SOLE credit for the fight taking place. So there will likely be a lot of fireworks before they ever make it to the ring.

Seems like we've all been here before with Anthony Joshua, too ... and this is when he's most likely to start "spitting out his mouthpiece."

So Joshua better win Saturday.

 

Exactly,when Luke Fairy realised that Usyk had photobombed him when he was Arum,the Gypsy Queen was nice as pie to Usyks face & was laughing & joking with him & then started badmouthing him when he was on his own!

 

So the rematch clause that Fury put in there to start with then became a deal breaker after Usyk actually accepted the quite shameful 30-70? To just brazenly lie like that....

Certainly worst duck since Bowe-Lewis. Fury is going to badly hurt his marketibility just to get out of a career high payday. Those are the actions of a scared man. I think he's straight up afraid of losing to someone he's been slagging off as a MW. His ego just can't handle that.

 

Fury wanted 80-20 in the rematch if he won and 50-50 if Usyk won.

 

Fury wanting a rematch isn't relevant to negotiations beyond given some insight into why he might be making crazy demands. His financial backers wanted it. Therefore it goes in. And we know Warren et al. put the clause in the contract, and in the end basically told Fury that it was staying in.

On that, it seems Fury being a loose cannon and throwing up unnecessary headaches in public for the negotiation teams is becoming something of a trade mark of his. Warren was getting pissed off with Fury last year, and I'd imagine even more so now.

Regarding a 70-30 split for the winner being a non-starter, personally, like many, I think that is quite reasonable. And, we have an example of an undisputed fight involving a large financial A-side:

Holyfield v Lewis 1 - 2:1 (66-33)
Holyfield v Lewis 2 - 1:1 (50-50)

So saying you want 50-50 even if you lose after all the other antics pulled is the most blatant attempt to cross a red line we will likely see for a fight of this level.

After that, I can't apportion much of any blame to Usyk for walking away from yet another Fury mess. He bent until he broke.

Intransigence and "upping the ante" doesn't get a deal made. Fury being Fury, basically.