GET OF HIS CASE ALREADY! clottey fought a good brave fight!

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Big N Bad, Mar 14, 2010.


  1. Big N Bad

    Big N Bad Well-Known Member Full Member

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    only he didnt throw enough punches.
    why did he not throw many punches? becuase pacman was punching very HARD and FAST, and im sure if pac caught clottey with 2 or 3 it could have been trouble for clottey. so he had to stay covered and throw economically although this is what ultimately lost him the fight compared to pacs workrate.

    apart from that, clottey did far betta than odlh-ricky hatton and better than cotto going 12 rounds, not getting marked up badly or getting ktfo.

    why are you calling him a chicken? he was fighting the best fighter in the world who looked very dangerous and powerful tonight!
    for a guy who was such a underdog, he did very well, catching and probably shaking pacman up a little, more than what the other guys can say.

    some people on this forum need to grow up and show respect where its due rather than constantly bitching! :thumbsup
     
  2. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    these people calling Clottey a coward aren't even worth a response
     
  3. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    We all know who the naysayers are.
    Same dudes with the same opinions as before, but they just need a twist.
     
  4. Gander Tasco

    Gander Tasco Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He fought the only fight he could fight. That's his style. People who don't watch boxing probably wouldn't realize this.

    He could have been a little more active at times, but he really had no chance to win. Pac was too good and had a perfect gameplan coming in. All those body shots were bothering Clottey, and the constant movement was confusing him.

    This is just another case of a very good fighter being dominated by Manny Pacquiao.
     
  5. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

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    from another post in another thread but applies here.

    Im not going to attack Clotteys character like some are, but i do feel that its fair to aim criticism at him, no doubt....


    and to think that he somehow has an achievment because he lasted longer then Cotto and Hatton, he doesnt.

    Cotto and Hatton came to win, if Cotto had went in with the sole aim to last the distance, he could have went the distance too. He was busted up and knocked down because he put it all on the line for 5 rounds and tried to tame the monster before he had to simply try and survive and retreat, and heart is more then just absorbing punishment, heart is absorbing the punishment and pushing through and keep trying to win....

    I understand you respecting that Clottey didnt get blown out, but there is a reason fighters get busted up and beaten up against Pac, and its because they are there to beat him.... lasting the distance because you didnt come prepared to do that, IMO isnt something worthy of a lot of praise.

    For the record, that was underwelming even to Clotteys standards, against a smaller opponent who at times was wanting Clottey to open up on him, basically standing right in front of him with his hands up.

    i dont entirely blame clottey, most peoples activity will drop if a guy is throwing 1200 punches at them with the speed and power of pac, but regardless, there were also plenty of times he had his chances and he simply didnt pull the trigger. The heat he is feeling is fair imo (well i do think the disgrace and all that kind of thing is overblown, i am not trying to attack his character as a person)
     
  6. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

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    I agree, some of the stuff ive seen said :-(
     
  7. d0pestradamus

    d0pestradamus Active Member Full Member

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    Whatever. A man goes out on his shield. Morales did it. Twice. True warrior. So what if he got sparked out within 3 in the third fight...He still gave it his all. Cotto gave it his all despite being dominated. I would say even Barrera who fought scared in the rematch with Pac still showed more heart in his 'survival' effort. Man, **** Clottey. Defend his ass all you want. Remember though, he did enough defending for the entire world to have a rightful fire burning under their ass for having paid for such incompetence, and there are more than enough flames to go around.
     
  8. the prom queen

    the prom queen bitter and clinging Full Member

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    Ive been on and off this site for years, and although I rarely post in the general, I do read threads, especially after big fights.......and the reaction to clottey is typical oof this forum whenever a well known fighter loses......remember pavlik caught all kinds of hell after his hopkins loss.
    I was also dissappointed that clottey seemed just to be there to survive and collect his check, but like someone said earlier, its hard to be active against someone with pac's punch output
     
  9. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    Bull****. The old timers are rolling in their graves. Clottey took virtually zero chances in trying to win the biggest fight of his life. If that doesn't deserve criticism, then what does? Down the stretch Pac was more desperate to knock him out/down and to entertain the crowd than Clottey was to win. That says something...
     
  10. nipplefloss

    nipplefloss Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Pac's punch output would have dropped if Clottey had done ANYTHING to dissuade him. He didn't throw that much against Cotto because Cotto actually came back with something. Pac could throw 110 punches a round because Clottey was only throwing 30.

    Clottey made no adjustments from round 1 through round 12. As you said, he just wanted to survive and pick up a check. He wasn't willing to risk anything, even when it became obvious that there was NO way he could win unless he took a chance. Maybe he's not a coward, but I have a hard time coming up with another word to describe a boxer who spends 12 rounds refusing to take even a single risk to win a fight.
     
  11. brixtonbeat

    brixtonbeat Active Member Full Member

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    it was an embarassing affair and underwhelming to say the least. there was nothing "brave" at all about that performance.

    there was little to no effort to win. hatton, cotto, (save perhaps oscar) etc. all looked better in defeat.
     
  12. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    More brave than the dude who was so scared he was on steroids he literally had to tarnish the guy's credibility with made up accusations.

    Clottey signed to fight.
    Mayweather asked his dad what a-side meth is.
     
  13. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    The wannabe net toughs who know all about boxing fail to see Pac's volume played a MAJOR part in Clottey's inactivity. It was almost a sort of replay of Williams vs. Wright.
     
  14. Боксёр

    Боксёр Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This is what happens when you are trained by a cutman and take a big fight on ''short'' notice ... I HOPE THIS WAS THE CASE .
     
  15. Gander Tasco

    Gander Tasco Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I agree but Clottey has always kinda lacked heart. And that's really just the way he fights.

    I think Manny's body punching and movement was bothering him quite a bit. He got discouraged. But I agree that he should have shown more of himself.