Get Victor Ortiz an American trainer

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Danny_Rand, Jun 28, 2009.


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  1. Hatesrats

    Hatesrats "I'm NOT Suprised..." Full Member

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    Grandpa ain't his trainer.
    As for him quitting, That must be the Kansas part in him.
    (That defo does not represent Cali/Oxnard or Ortiz)
     
    Hatesrats, Jun 28, 2009
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  2. Marnoff

    Marnoff Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Fully agreed. I was an Ortiz fan prior to that interview. Now I don't care to ever see him fight again.
     
    Marnoff, Jun 28, 2009
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  3. Uncle Sam

    Uncle Sam New Member Full Member

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    Like I have always said, any fighter from Texas, Kansas or anywhere else not from southern California, that comes from Mexican decent, have zero heart. Sure there are exceptions but look at ROBOBOXER Rocky Juarez and Juan Diaz who basically quit after he saw blood when he fought Nate Campbell. Don't get me started with "The Ghost" Robert Guerrero.

    These guys are talented but have zero grit.
     
    Uncle Sam, Jun 28, 2009
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  4. Jefe De Jefes

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    Whatabout David Diaz? You can't say that guy doesn't have heart after watching that Pacquiao fight. He went out like a warrior.
     
    Jefe De Jefes, Jul 5, 2009
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  5. catasyou

    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Ortiz didn't follow the gameplan.

    His fault(as he admited).
     
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  6. juanitoboxing

    juanitoboxing Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yep, this is exactly what he needs to do, it has to do nothing with the trainer. Ortiz failed in the intangibles, not on the actual boxing skills.
     
    juanitoboxing, Jul 5, 2009
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  7. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    :rofl
     
    IntentionalButt, Jul 9, 2009
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  8. Danny_Rand

    Danny_Rand Slick N Quick Full Member

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    No they get sucked into the whole "mexican warrior" mentality and forget how to box, trying to prove themselves to the mexican public. Its how Marquez got in Diaz' head during their fight. Claiming he wasnt a real Mexican, which caused Juan Diaz to plow forward into those uppercuts trying to prove himself. Its bullsh!t.
     
    Danny_Rand, Jul 10, 2009
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  9. Medicine

    Medicine Boxing Addict banned

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    It had nothing to do with the trainer or the game plan, he got his ass kicked plain and simple. Maidana would beat him every damn time, Ortiz is not tough and has no heart for when it gets rough in the ring.
     
    Medicine, Jul 10, 2009
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  10. Danny_Rand

    Danny_Rand Slick N Quick Full Member

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    Ortiz won 4 of the first 5 rounds and knocked Maidana down twice. Ortiz is a far better natural fighter then Maidana. His training and mentality was just bad.
     
    Danny_Rand, Jul 10, 2009
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  11. garygunn

    garygunn New Member Full Member

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    ortiz is over rated! he got found out! end off
     
    garygunn, Jul 11, 2009
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  12. Windigo

    Windigo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ortiz needs to go get Nacho, Roach or even Atlas guys who have proven that they know how to mold good southpaws. His movement for a southpaw is atrocious. Front and back like an orthodox fighter no lateral movement. Until he gets the right trainer who knows how to train southpaws he is never going to be able to avoid that right hand, right now he is a lot like a young Manny minus the heart.
     
    Windigo, Jul 11, 2009
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