Getting a CA promoters license.....is it hard ?

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  1. freddy-wak

    freddy-wak M O D E R A T O R Full Member

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    Been thinking this through for a very long time now, and being a promoter is something I would love to do next in my life...haven't really done much research except for looking up the app online, but it seems you have to be very well connected to be one......



    What do y'all know about this ?
     
  2. xRedx

    xRedx Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The licence is probably easy to get, it's about what you can do with it that's hard. Look at 50 cent, SMS looks like it's failing. You got to be connected to boxing in a major way somehow to have those connections whether you're a fighter, a commentator on a major network, a referee, judge, announcer etc.
     
  3. jeffjoiner

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    As you well know, California is an incredibly difficult place to do business. Lots of red tape, fees and taxes.

    I promoted tons of music festivals (raves back then) and some of them were actually permitted. It is easier to get a permit when you are renting out an underused government owned facility like the LA Sports Arena. At least nowadays. Just make sure your business license, LLC/partnership paperwork is air tight and that your federal, state, and local tax id numbers are current.

    I used to work with a guy who promoted MMA cards. I'll hit him up and send you a PM if I find anything fight specific.
     
  4. freddy-wak

    freddy-wak M O D E R A T O R Full Member

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    I mean, like anything I know it would take time and it's hard, but I have mexico right across from me and there's tons of fighters here where i'm from. Tons of fight fans that have to always travel far to see some live action. My dream would be to start promoting local first, then if I hit big, cool....I see too much local talent go to waste since they can't get fights and if they do it's usually a loss of income with all the traveling and expenses.....I really wanna bring a nice solid fight scene to my area....
     
  5. Changfoo

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    Freddy hit up your Chicano brother from another mother Oscar De la Hoya. That dude is the richest and most influential Mexican American Promoter in boxing today.

    He from Cali, you from Cali, It makes sense to connect with him.
     
  6. freddy-wak

    freddy-wak M O D E R A T O R Full Member

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    Wish it was that easy
     
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  8. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You need to read up on the rules of the state commission and Association of Boxing Commissioners.

    Getting the license probably means jumping through a lot of hoops, but mostly it's the expense -- insurance and ring rental and renting gloves, etc. If you use local fighters from a gym that actually has a ring and gloves they will probably rent to you cheaper to get their guys on the card.
     
  9. freddy-wak

    freddy-wak M O D E R A T O R Full Member

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    none of that is the problem...I have a 24x24 brand new ring just sitting there...gloves would be the least of worries, as would getting fighters....I have good venue hookups and pretty much everything I need to get plugged up...my friends throw events (grappling and amateur exhibition) all the time...but there's no real money in that...I actually wanna throw legit pro events and get my foot in the door...
     
  10. MyName

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    I imagine you would need serious money in the beggining.
     
  11. jeffjoiner

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    I'm assuming you have your gym set up as a corporation of some sort, likely an LLC. If so, definitely have the corporation apply for the license. If not, do that first. No need to risk your personal assets.

    The application through the State Commission looks pretty cut and dry. I'm sure they will take their sweet time processing it.

    I'd love to help out in this venture if you are really serious. At least pass out fliers at events here in OC and LA for you. Perhaps more, depending on what you need.
     
  12. DixieMexican

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    The technicalities (IE: Licensing Fees etc.) are probably the easiest the hardest part is the amount of coin that it is required initially.
     
  13. freddy-wak

    freddy-wak M O D E R A T O R Full Member

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    how much loot do you guys think is needed up front...I've been saving
     
  14. Saintpat

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    To put on an initial club-level fight, probably $20k or more.

    I believe the commisson will require you to have up-front money to pay every fighter and official even if not a single ticket is sold.

    Venue, advertising, etc., will also probably want money up front.

    And you'll find this quickly enough: any fighter who can sell tickets, and will do so, you find a spot for on the card -- a winning spot if at all possible. It is not uncommon at the club level for fighters to fight for a small purse and 50 percent from each ticket they sell or something like that. A guy who can sell 50 tickets at $20 apiece and keep half is going to make himself a nice purse bonus.

    I would suggest you start with smaller cards where every fight top to bottom is competitive, regardless of records. If you know a guy with a 4-6 record would would make an exciting fight against a 2-1 guy, make the fight. The important thing is that the crowd, however large or small, leaves entertained. The 20-1 guy against the 8-14 opponent looking for a soft spot to land won't bring people back.

    Venue-wise, negotiate to keep all or part of the concessions. If you keep all, you'll have to buy the food and have people there to staff it, but if you get a decent crowd that's where a lot of the money is -- if you give it all away because it's a headache, you may find yourself regretting it. A hot dog and soft drink that cost you less than a buck that you sell for $4 or $5 is a lot of profit. You want to project how many people you think you can put in the arena and then how much you want to average per person to make a profit.

    If it's not a large town, you'll want to chat up local media: take the sports editor and TV sport director to lunch, explain what you're doing, pitch them on good stories about local fighters -- not necessarily contenders, but people with interesting backgrounds. A local cop fighting part-time against a bricklayer, that sometimes will get more publicity than the boring guy who might oneday be a contender.
     
  15. freddy-wak

    freddy-wak M O D E R A T O R Full Member

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    money's not an issue

    food vendors, there's plenty that I know that wont charge me a penny as long as they keep the profits (taco and hotdog stands etc etc)

    local fighters wont be an issue, there's many with a huge following (thanks to local events here and there...amateur exibitions of course)

    venues are usually easy to get as long as they keep the money for the beer

    that would obviously leave me with ticket sales to profit from, and sponsors too.....

    like I said, my friends thrown events all the time, and they sell....but it's kinda getting old for me and I want my local fighters to start getting recognized..reason why I wanna do this on a pro level....there's many local events that easily bring in between 600-1000 people all the time, and those are just charity events.....my city's hungry for some pro action, and we always gotta travel far just to see some pro action....