Getting a CA promoters license.....is it hard ?

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  1. freddy-wak

    freddy-wak M O D E R A T O R Full Member

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    the **** !!!

    i'm not hbo, and I sure as **** don't have berto on my roster vs some bum :bbb
     
  2. freddy-wak

    freddy-wak M O D E R A T O R Full Member

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    a lot of the costs would be elimated since I have connections to a lot of local fighters....i'm thinking I can fill a nice 6-8 fight card with just locals....
     
  3. daprofessor

    daprofessor da legendary professor Full Member

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    lmao! do u know how many promoters there are in cali?

    how many of them actually make money?

    ppl think...."if snooky is doing this...i know i can!"

    a fool and his money are soon parted. ever heard that before?
     
  4. freddy-wak

    freddy-wak M O D E R A T O R Full Member

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    don't know don't care

    I run a business now, don't need you to tell me about profit and loss

    I aint no ****en snooky that's for sure...when there's passion involved, it can take you many places money can't

    i'm far from a fool
     
  5. daprofessor

    daprofessor da legendary professor Full Member

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    this is actually good advice.
     
  6. daprofessor

    daprofessor da legendary professor Full Member

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    not all of this is mandatory.
     
  7. DixieMexican

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    Yes but they won't do it for free, facility fee, insurance, medical costs.........Promotional expenses (advertising event)

    Atleast at a minimum, 100k-150k your first event, the 2nd could be done with less, but initial starting and making promotional decals and stuff is an initial expense. May be a while too before you see a return.

    There is a reason why only super rich dudes get into this game.
     
  8. daprofessor

    daprofessor da legendary professor Full Member

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    that's good to hear.

    i can help if you're looking for guidance. where are u in cali?
     
  9. freddy-wak

    freddy-wak M O D E R A T O R Full Member

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    bro..i live by the border, costs are ridiculously cheap down here for promotion, banners, flyers, radio etc etc....

    only thing that worries me right now is getting my license...I know I can make the rest happen....
     
  10. freddy-wak

    freddy-wak M O D E R A T O R Full Member

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    local fighters from here travel....yes travel, about 2-3 hrs to take fights for 400-800 bucks....

    promoting or managins is something we need down here...too much talent going to waste
     
  11. DixieMexican

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    Then go for it Bro, hechale ganas.
     
  12. Saintpat

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    If you stick to a few competitve 4-rounders, maybe a 6-round semi and a 6- or 8-round main event, you can probably get a good club show together for the price I mentioned.

    I strongly suggest you make an agreement with your vendors to get at least a cut of the concessions -- even 10 percent can offset a lot of costs.

    Many managers of guys who aren't top-tier, who often get used up as opponents by fighting for short money on 6 days notice, will jump at the chance to fight for less if they see their fight as competitive. A chance for a win is a very valuable thing as it keeps their guy encouraged and also opens the door to the next payday. Your undercard can be very entertaining by putting a couple of opponent-vs-opponent matches together, and the crowd at a club show doesn't care about records if they get an action fight -- that's what they want, with just enough skill or class on the card to get a taste of the art of boxing.

    In addition to a promoter's license, you'll probably need an event license (not very expensive) in the city or county where you are putting it on. They will also want to collect sales tax on the tickets, and don't be surprised if someone from the local government shows up to do a head count to make sure they don't get shorted (they may want it that night).

    On the undercard, be prepared to pay around $200 per scheduled round (i.e. $800 for a 4-rounder) -- sometimes guys will take less for the right fight, as referenced above) -- and more for a tougher or more high-profile fight like the semi or main event.

    Another thing you will learn is that "expense" has nothing to do with how expensive it is or isn't to get the fighter to the fight. Managers and trainers on small shows make their money on this. A manager who is bringing a fighter from an hour away for a 4-rounder is probably only getting a small amount of money from the fighter's share, and he has to pay the gas, probably feed the guy, maybe even spend hours looking for the guy when he doesn't show up at the agreed-upon place and time. That manager may want $200 and his own hotel room for that one-hour drive to bring the fighter. And it's almost always worth it, as you'll develop relationships with guys you can trust to get the fighter there on time as you put on more shows. It's worth it -- as you'll discover when you are sitting there an hour before a weigh-in and your main eventer or his opponent can't be raised on the phone and you think everything's about to fall apart.

    Figure up how many hotel rooms you will need and try to work a discount with a local hotel -- tell them you'll keep using them if you keep promoting if they give you a break. See if a local restaurant or night club will give you a few bucks to hold the weigh-in there and let them hang a poster at the fight and have the ring announcer plug them.

    With boxing, more than a lot of other events, you may be required to hire X number of off-duty cops at a pretty high rate to be there for security purposes -- especially if beer is being sold. A lot of venues won't allow a show without say 4 or 5 of them in uniform just as a reminder to the crowd to keep the peace.

    This is the SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT THING: have your people at the door collecting money and your people keeping watch on every side door -- and window and vent duct if necessary. Nothing will kill you quicker than some guy letting his buddies in free or for half price. Someone you trust, preferably an ex-boxer who looks like an escaped convict, needs to be overseeing every possible point of entry. The people at the venue (even if you know and trust the owners or managers, I'm talking about the low-wage workers who have no relationship with you) don't give a crap about you losing money if they can gain favor with their friend or drug dealer or the hot chicks they know from the bar.
     
  13. Changfoo

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    Damn Freddy. This is going to be tough, expensive and really a long journey but if you have the passion, go for it man and don't let anyone tell you that you can't do it.

    Just my advice, don't spend any of your emergency money and make sure the money you put in for this business venture as a promoter is money you won't regret losing in case it doesn't work out.

    It's like gambling, the money you use for gambling is money you know you are not going to get back almost guaranteed and if that's not going to mess you up financially and you are not going to regret it then go for it.