GGG avoided Ward, exposed!

Odins beard · Aug 16, 2018

dinovelvet said: ↑

GGG would have indeed wanted a guarantee of 1M PPV buys or some other outrageous demand before he'd ever step in the ring with Ward so i agree with you on that.
Kovalev on the other hand was happy he was getting the opportunity to fight the p4p #1 in the world which is why you never heard him make any excuses or diva like demands.

Golovkin had he fought Ward would have banked the highest purse of his career minus the Canelo pay as Kovalev took away a rumourd $7M in the first fight.

Golovkin had a career high purse and a career defining legacy fight on offer to him and he turned it down to protect his zero first and foremost. He had other plans and they involved non-risk fights against smaller guys like Cotto and Canelo.
Golovkin gladly let Ward sail off where he took on the risks and challenges he wanted no part of.
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What risks and challenges was these?

Rock0052 · Aug 17, 2018

KiwiMan said: ↑

Here's the truth of the matter @Mark Adam:

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I have done so much research on the GGG-Ward negotiations, and I find that much misinformation exists. The plain facts are:

Ward-GGG in 2013: was discussed, GGG agreed at the HBO offices, Ward got sidelined by his court battles with Goossen. GGG was desperate for a big fight then, he was completely frozen out at MW.

Ward-GGG in 2015: GGG turned down 50%-50% at 168 lb, (informally, i.e. via media) counter-offered 50%-50% at 164. K2 informally claim they also counter-offered Ward 40%-60% at 168 lb, but this was not officially confirmed. Negotiations broke down over the money, GGG felt he was compromising his shot at Canelo.

And yes, Ward would've probably UD'ed Golovkin either time but this does not change the facts.

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The GGG-Ward negotiations are often twisted to suit agendas here, so here are the facts to the best of my knowledge (corrections with legit sources accepted of course).

1) GGG moving up to challenge Ward at 168 lb had been a possibility several years earlier in 2013, before Ward's legal troubles began. At that stage Golovkin was relatively unknown and was desperate for a big fight while Ward was a major star who had just won the Super 6. Ward apparently did not want to take another risky fight just then, and even if he had a change of heart, his career was soon to be derailed by legal problems. So apparently in a meeting at the HBO offices he said no - something GGG always points out and Ward has never flatly denied.

2) Fast forward several years, and things have changed. GGG is becoming well-known in comparison to Ward, whose profile has suffered from inactivity. Furthermore the prospect of the Canelo fight is very much a real one. So GGG wants to stay at or close to 160 lb, hence the 164 lb offer. Also remember that the possibility of GGG losing would hurt the Canelo fight revenue badly. So GGG wanted to be very well-paid to go to 168 lb (my sources say $8 million was what he wanted). Ward cannot make 164 lb, and he is also not happy to give GGG the lion's share of the pot. From his point of view, GGG is comparatively unproven and doesn't deserve that much. It's also the biggest fight he'll ever get as no other SMW-LHW is more popular than GGG, so he wanted to maximize his earnings there. There simply wasn't enough money in the pot for this fight, GGG getting $8 million would mean Ward got substantially less than that.

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In 2015 Ward was forced to fight either Kovalev or GGG by HBO. That's why he was suddenly keen on fighting Golovkin as it was the bigger, and to most experts, easier fight. In 2013 Golovkin was even more dangerous but more or less unknown, Ward was the bigger star. Golovkin wanted Ward then, not vice versa:

At our meeting with HBO they asked us whether we are ready to box. You know our answers - I said yes, you said no. You said something about your shoulder or promoter - I'm not interested in the reason, I only heard your "no." But you remember that HBO said then that they would need a long time to build-up the fight.

If you look at boxing without bias, you will see that the smaller star usually wants to fight the bigger star more than vice versa. This was the case with Golovkin-Ward. In 2013 Ward was a far bigger star and had no good reason to take a risk against Golovkin (there were equally lucrative and lower risk fights around, plus Ward was fighting with his promoter). In 2015 Golovkin was the bigger star and Ward was the one who wanted the fight. It's quite simple.
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This ought to be stickied and posted on any thread in which this topic comes up. Great stuff!

C.J. · Aug 17, 2018

22JM said: ↑

It's obvious , Ward would've embarrassed GG
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In a level no corruption fight GGG would humiliate the dirty scumbag. But Ward has to have his own officials & fight at home.Wonder how much was in that brown envelope he sent Weekes ??

IsaL · Aug 17, 2018

Rock0052 said: ↑

This ought to be stickied and posted on any thread in which this topic comes up. Great stuff!
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LMAO.. No!

That post is not any better than any other post with anyone claiming they know what went down.

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