GGG beats the Ray Leonard that beat Hagler

Thanks for the reply but I asked ya about TACTICS.
You know, like GGG often being wide open for counters 'cause his arms fly everywere when he punches.

How will GGG respond to SRL's hand- and footspeed?
You think he can follow Ray who moves like a ''rabbit''? If so, how?
What will he do when Ray unleashes a 8-punch flurry out of nowhere?

 

I disagree. I think that SRL outpoints GGG.

 

Based on what? Him beating C level guys like Lemieux and Geale?:rofl

 

This is ridiculous. I like Golovkin, but damn. They have this guy beating SRR, SRL, Hopkins, Jones and Hagler? I'm not even so sure how he'd fair with Jermaine Taylor and Kelly Pavlik...

 

It is ridiculous and he had a chance to prove if he was as good as his fans say he is by fighting Ward but he ducked him. If he had fought and beat Ward we could then take this discussion seriously but he didn't.

 

Why be so modest?

Say what you mean! That GGG beats any version of Ray Leonard and walks through the Hagler that knocked out Tommy Hearns.

 

^^^ Excellent. Be sure to post in the Classic section too.

 

To even suggest that Golovkin beats the version of Leonard, who beat Hagler, you have to already consider Golovkin to have proven himself to be on the level of the 'Fab Four'. I include each of the 'Fab Four' because Hearns and Duran, as well as Hagler were the only opponents to legitimately stretch Leonard, when he was at and around his competitive best (you could probably throw a fifth member in there for good measure, in the form of Benitez).

There is an argument that Leonard was not as effective after his lay off and move up to Middleweight, when he faced Hagler. The question remains, how less effective was Leonard under these circumstances and how much of a factor would this be against Golovkin?

In my view, Leonard was a 'once-in-a-lifetime' Boxer, the likes of whom I've not really seen since. Even the defensive technicians such as Whitaker and Mayweather Jr; or the phenomenon that was Jones Jr, do not really compare to the all round capabilities of Sugar Ray Leonard.

I then have to ask myself: Has Golovkin faced anyone even remotely comparable to any of the aforementioned Boxers? The fact is that the answer to that question is a resounding 'No'. His level of competition is not his fault but it is what it is - and that is average, at best. Therefore and though being confident in saying Golovkin is the best MW around today, I can't, at this time, really deem him as being on the elite level of Hagler, Hearns, Duran, Benitez and Leonard.

Disposing of mediocre opposition the way he has had to is to his credit but it serves no benchmark for such flights of fancy as him being up there with the ATGs.

 

:deal

The Triple Duck loses badly to the elite @ 160...

 

Very well said...

 

At the very least, Kelly Pavlik had the gonads to move up and face Hopkins @ 170lbs. That said, I think Pavlik would have KO'ed the Triple Duck and Taylor would have UD'd him. Taylor was quite the fighter when he was at his best...

 

Those great times when black Americans dominated boxing !!! They are gone now. Those greats wouldn't last 12 rounds with Golovkin.

Can you imagine somebody saying that swimmers/runners/soccer players/etc. from 1970s would beat current top athletes ??? Only dummies can think that boxing is any different.

 

Not likely to happen anytime soon.

Lol..

 

70's vintage Roberto Duran would absolutely decimate today's lightweight division. It would be criminal...

 

Wrong. Only people, who do not have the mind to see the difference between a combat sport and beach volleyball think time passing alone brings advancement and ever-better competitors in Boxing.