GGG: Canelo is cheating

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by The Long Count, Mar 20, 2018.


  1. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    of course I faled to mention them, for the simlpe fact that I wasnt trying to.

    my aim was to negate to connection between judge and beef. There is ZERO reason to dd them together to yield the conclusion that canelo is a drug cheat. Judges have nothing to do with drugs.
     
  2. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    they are entirely unrelated events that you are connecting.

    I am not, you are referring to a different person. Trace element of Clen in this case.

    Also I'm not defending him, I am sayingmight/might not - which is the sensible answer. You are the one trying to argue that having a weak judge is evidence of clenbuterol use. I cant begin to tell you how stupid that argument is.

    thats a crime, so it really isnt a good metaphor. What you are saying is that Lance Armstrong was doing a Jimmy Saville on the side.
     
  3. Puroresu_Fan

    Puroresu_Fan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This

    If he believes his cheating he shouldn't be fighting him.

    Don't start moaning and then fight him. That's a hypocrite.
     
  4. delboy82

    delboy82 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This here shows you dont have a clue what your talking about.

    Whether the clen was in the meat or in a "pill" matters not a jot. The body breaks it down and they are no longer one and the same ie. if it was meat the body would break everything down and is absorbed separately. the only difference between taking it in pill, injection, food anything would be the quantity and the speed in which the body would process it.

    Canelo ... a Mexican may not have known that the meat has a rep for being contaminated.... you said yourself it has a "reputation". If me in the UK knew about the dodgy meat then he did, no ifs no buts nothing. All athletes where warned about the meat and have been for years now this is not something recent. And you are aware that Canelo has a dietitian and nutritionist that source his food ?!

    The more you clutch at straws the weaker your arguement becomes. Also IT DOESNT MATTER if he knows or not he had a banned substance in his system FACT !! it doesnt matter how much or how little he had, doesnt matter how much of a difference it makes. Its illegal to have it in your system and he does rules have been broken no ifs, no buts FACT.

    Are you saying that all the russians who were banned in boxing and other sports shouldnt have been as most of them were not aware?!
     
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  5. Stefz

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    "Trace elements" - Did you actually read the figures at all ? Or just going by what GBP said ?

    The drink driver is a similar situation with different consequences, legally and morally. The process is still the same.

    God, you are so blind and delusional you would defend canelo if he got caught with debol in his training bag.
     
  6. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    if you read them then quote the figure, dont say "did you?"

    You are trying to prove your point, so prove it, dont fake it, then I'll accept what you say as fact.

    it is not the same situation. Legal limit tests dont show positive results for equivalent trace amounts, nor is it anyway the same morally and legally, which hopefully you agree with now, its not clear you do or dont.

    how is someone who is saying might be/might not, blind and delusional? is the whole of VADA blind and delusional too? or it it you?
     
  7. mandatory

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    This is all getting soooo old... This fight has gone to sh*t... I keep saying cancel the damn fight and move the fk on.. Greedy *******s all of them :hang
     
  8. Stefz

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    Recent cases:
    - China's Fuyu Li: 50-100 picograms
    - Italy's Alessandro Colò: 200 picograms
    - Spain's Alberto Contador: 50 picograms
    - Germany's Dimitrij Ovtcharov: 75 picograms
    - Mexico's Saul "Canelo" Alvarez: 600-800 piocgrams

    All of the other athletes claimed that ate contaminated meat. All of the other athletes received suspension. Ovtcharov got aquitted but WADA appealed the decision.
    Canelo had 3/4 times the amount of clen in his system than the worst offender previously. (Colo got banned for 12 months).

    I stated the legal and morale terms are different for a Drink Driver and a PED cheat, but the process is the same. Takes a illegal amount of a drug, and blames a source which is documented for having that drug but then claims ignorance.

    No, VADA is hired and ultimately paid by the promoters/federation for there services. They can be twisted when a fight with the magnitude of money that GGGvsCaneloII has on the line.
     
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  9. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    In Mexico that'd pass as legit. They have a real contaminated Christmas pudding problem that everyone is aware of and Canelo has a guy who sells them on his team. He also sells bridges to Mexican fanboys.
     
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  10. titanic

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    They know that 'It is the Meat's fault ' :ARMS1:
     
  11. titanic

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    I heard of this tainted burritos as well :stirrpot
     
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  12. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    why have you not yet quoted the limit?
     
  13. Bustajay

    Bustajay Feel the Steel/Balls Deep Full Member

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    Right!!!???? Take the fight and the cash and have a nice life
     
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  14. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    If this fight is cancelled which I don't want it to be then Alavarez needs to pick up a ban if VADA want even a semblance of credibilty in the eyes of the boxing community.
     
  15. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    I hope they are stupid enough to sue. It could go very Jeffrey Archer on them very quickly given the amount of evidence against Canelo here.