GGG: Canelo is cheating

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  1. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It might not matter to Golovkin but the powers that be should be doing something about it! Canelo needs banning and the first fight overturned!
     
  2. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Shadow what you say is entirely possible until you do some digging and fight out the guys diet,he hardly eats red meat at the best of times and in training none at all,I googled Canelos diet and there’s loads of articles about him eating veg,fish and chicken all very scientific stuff,in his own words he doesn’t eat red meat and yet you’d gladly believe this.

    Find me a boxer with Canelos body type pre 1980s there isn’t one,we’ve all gotten used to seeing guys like Joshua and Canelo and tell ourselves it’s just their genetics lol.
    It’s all BS Shadow the tainted meat thing,I don’t what you’re reaction to Povetkin was and Browne for testing positive but there’s plenty on here who gave em he’ll and yet Canelo just ate some dodgy meat from some back st alley.
    My last point on this is that according to these drug testing agencies to test positive for Clenbuterol one would have to ingest large amounts of meat immediately after the animal was slaughtered which is what convinced me it was psy op as no farmer is gonna give his cow PEDS and then send it to slaughter before the stuff has a chance to work are they?
     
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  3. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yes but you have to play the game,in reality Golovkin probably doesn’t give a rats but whenever an athletes pops dirty in any sport,sponsors and fellow athletes throw em under the bus lol.
    Actually re Golovkin I do feel he’s probably clean now though I very much doubt primo GGG was?
    See this is the difference between Canelo fans and the rest,we can talk about this stuff without pretending to ourselves that our fav boxers are like Gods.
    Canelo is so bad he’s even been seen pinching sweets off children.
     
  4. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Not the end of his career per say though it may be the end of his career on the juice,surely he’s gonna be tested now properly?
     
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  5. KiwiMan

    KiwiMan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    But everyone knows Mexico has a problem with contaminated meat, Canelo surely must have known of the risk.

    It's his job to make sure he always tests clean.
     
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  6. KiwiMan

    KiwiMan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    And one more for the Canelo apologists @shadow111 @IsaL: how does Canelo ingest enough contaminated meat to test for 600-800 pg of clenbuterol when (by his own admission) he doesn't even eat either red meat or Mexican foods in his training camps?

    That amount means he'd have to eat a large quantity of highly contaminated meat.
     
  7. kriszhao

    kriszhao Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Precisely.
     
  8. kriszhao

    kriszhao Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    they don't have an answer so they just pretend that the question was never asked.
     
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  9. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    Apologist? I only use facts to make my arguments, why are you always making **** up? I already owned your ass in that other post last night where you lied about me making GGG hate threads, you haven't even responded to my response.

    Back to your apologist comment, let me own you again.

    Here is my take on the situation so far:

    -Canelo has always proven to be clean until Feb. 17th and Feb. 20th., 2 months away from the fight.
    -Since then Canelo has passed every test, and prior to that Canelo had passed every test.
    -SMRTL lab director made a statement saying that the trace amounts found were consistent with the consumption of contaminated meat.
    -SMRTL is accredited by WADA
    -SMRTL is contracted by VADA
    -None of those agencies have come out against the statements made by the lab director
    -I have no issues with Canelo being fined or suspended, he did after all test positive
    -I have no issues with GGG pulling out of the fight, and unlike many GGGoons who trashed Wilder for pulling out, I would not trash GGG for doing so
    -I find it rather low and pathetic if GGG fights Canelo, gets humiliated or loses and then cries foul when he went into the fight believing Canelo was a cheater
    -I will give Canelo the benefit of the doubt this time, especially considering the circumstances of him training in MX when it happened, being enrolled with VADA, and the statement by the lab director
    -I think Canelo was foolish to not take the upmost precautions to avoid something like this from happening to him

    So basically you're calling me an apologist because I give a professional like Canelo the benefit of the doubt? Yeah buddy, now go respond to my post from last night.
     
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  10. effigy

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    The most irritating thing about all this is that it's taken SOME of the gloss off the rematch. I'm not massively bothered how people scored the first fight, all I'm bothered about after that event is finished is that I get to see the 2 top middleweights fight again. It's their legacy, not mine, I just wanna see the best fight the best. This failed drug test bull**** is just irritating. My opinions on it are this:

    1: Canelo is either a genuine cheat or an idiot for failing a drugs test. Period. Doesn't matter how it happened. He either is/has been doing it for illegal gains OR despite being a multi millionaire with a deep knowledgeable team around him, accidentally digested an illegal substance from a notorious potentially contaminated source.

    2: Anyone caught with an amount that could be consistent with that of contaminated meat, will ALWAYS say it was contaminated meat. That doesn't make what he is saying a lie. It's just that if he didn't eat contaminated meat he's hardly gonna go on Oprah saying 'You got me' when he's got the old meat excuse ( like anyone else who tests in a certain range ) in his back pocket.

    3. The use of drugs in sport is and has been for a long time, rampant. This doesn't excuse Canelo in any way.

    4. What's the point of allowing someone who ingested a banned substance to get away with it, irrelevant of the why's or how's. He should be banned, even if he is 100% truthful. There's really no point in having a system in place if there's caveats in it that allow it to be fine. Plenty of other sports have banned competitors despite ACCEPTING their reason of accidental usage. That boxing allows this, just speaks of it's corruption.
     
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  11. KiwiMan

    KiwiMan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You're completely mixed up, you were arguing with @kiwi_boxer last night.

    We are different people!!

    I never posted about your supposedly numerous GGG threads.

    I never lie. If I post incorrect information it is always unintentional and I always apologize when it comes to my attention.

    Will you apologize for mixing me up? You know I'd offer an apology if I was wrong.
     
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  12. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Isal testing clean means nothing,you really ought to read up on Lance Armstrong and Marion Jones who never failed a test,Canelo has failed a test twice and deserves the heat he’s getting.
    If you wanna believe it’s from his steak egg n chips fair enough but it’s still a PED.
     
  13. BCS8

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    I don't agree with everything but it was a good post.
     
  14. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Do they have a Mexican version of Oprah lol?
    No joking aside everything you said is spot on,you can see why Canelo wanted to bulk up and I hold Oscar just as responsible for putting in his fighters head for years that GGG was too much and that he wasn’t a Middleweight,saddens me as no amount of PEDs will improve a fighter and in that first fight we saw a very good Canelo against the worst version of GGG and still he fell short in most folks eyes,the rematch could be the same.
     
  15. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    Tainted sweets now? How could he have know those children he swiped that candy from were on clen? He couldn't I tell ya!
     
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