GGG-Canelo is the MOST LUCRATIVE FIGHT in Boxing (GGG's Right 2 Scoff @ Golden Ploy's Joke Offer)

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  1. drenlou

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    300k is very good considering that Smith was a domestic level fighter. And most importantly, it's a consistent buy rate!
     
  2. drenlou

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    Canelo took 5 or 6 mill to get the Cotto fight signed, and got more from the 900k ppv buyrate, beat Cotto and now Canelo calls the shots to future opponents. GGG will make 4 or 5 mill more than Canelo took for Cotto, plus PPV upside equaling millions of dollars more in his pocket, he just has to be willing to concede to terms the way Canelo did to Floyd and Cotto, and IF he beats Canelo he calls the shots for a rematch. I think it's a great deal!
     
  3. The Shockmaster

    The Shockmaster SOG has 4 children...he pulls out of nothing banned Full Member

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    the only deal that is ever good/great in the eyes of the bumdog superfans is the one he takes....he could turn down 100 mil to face canelo and these guys would say he deserves 150
     
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  4. james5000

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    We all know this fight is in the negotiation stage at the moment but it in GGGs best interest to take the fight asap and if that means taking a smaller share than he should do it.

    1) If negotiations stall and drag out a bit GGG could lose and he will lose all of his negotiation power and the fight Ppv numbers would instantly decline.
    Canelo's fan base is bit sturdier he already has a resume behind him so he wouldn't lose marketability.

    2) if negotiations drag GGG could get old and when the fight takes place he could get beat up. Sure his bank balance might be happy but his legacy will dive. History will only remember the winner not the circumstances of how the fight took place.
     
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  5. Loudon

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    A very predictable weak response from you.

    You don't possess the required amount of intellect to give me a real debate.

    All you want to do is hate.

    Whenever someone pushes you, you can't come back with anything.

    You guys are just time wasters.


    His reputation isn't doing well.

    Who are you trying to kid?

    Why hasn't he accepted their offer? I've already told you. The fight is at best a year away, and a flat fee from one of the biggest grossing fights of all time is BS.

    If Oscar was serious, everything would be done privately, face to face, where a fair compromise on a percentage would be agreed upon.


    Below is a balanced view of Canelo's situation:

    http://www.boxinginsider.com/columns/canelo-smith-ppv-numbers/
     
  6. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    It's a shocking post.
     
  7. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    What are you talking about?

    It's 75-25 if it goes to a purse bid.

    They're currently deep in negotiations working back from the ridiculous 40% that Jacobs wanted, even though he's basically just a glorified number 1 contender.

    It's just a nonsense post. But that's okay, you're in great company on this cesspit of a site.

    You think GG is timid of Jacobs? Jacobs called out GG after Brook. He called him out after Mora. He tweeted that he was back in the gym months ago, looking forward to a fight against GG at some point in December. He was already to go, all fired up. Yet despite all of that, he suddenly requires 10-12 weeks preparation from the fight. Ha! You couldn't make this sh*t up.

    Canelo talks big, drops the belt to fight Smith, but it's GG who's got no nuts and holding up the fight?

    Jacobs talks big, but wants 40%, and needs 12 weeks preparation, yet it's GG who's looking weary?

    You clowns should all either be on stage, or write fantasy novels to make a living.
     
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  8. Loudon

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    The figures from Smith at 250-300k were not good, if you're liking him to a superstar attraction that deserves 75% of the purse against GG.

    Yes, he's done good numbers with Canelo, Cotto and Khan, because they're bigger names. But when he fights Lara and Trout etc, they quickly fall.

    Yes, it's that word you hate: circumstances.

    Canelo was lucky that he had the OPPORTUNITY to fight those guys.

    Floyd and Cotto wouldn't go anywhere near GG.

    You need the opportunity.

    Sure, GG's fight against Lemieux bombed. But it was his debut fight.

    His numbers will be significantly better from this point forward. He's just done 500,000 against Brook and got a $5m purse. The casuals are on board. He's signed a deal with Nike. Every online boxing forum and every social media outlet is talking about him. He's gaining popularity with each fight. There must be literally 5-10 threads made about him every 24 hours on here and the Scene. And the figures against Brook were exceptionally good when you consider that Brook hasn't got a huge fan base out of Sheffield, GG hasn't got a great resume, and there are a huge number of replica Sky boxes that have flooded the U.K. within the last 2 years, where you can receive every Sky channel, including box office, for a one off payment.

    Not once have I ever said that Canelo doesn't deserve the lions share. But this fight will easily clear a million buys and GG will play a huge part in that. It takes 2 fighters to garner huge interest and make a huge fight. There is absolutely no reason why Oscar can't give him a percentage from the total figure. If it did better than expected, he would get more. If it didn't, GG would get less. Canelo doesn't deserve 75% out of a fight that could do 70-80m + just because he's more popular and has had better opportunities. GG has most of the belts, and you can kid yourself all you want, Oscar and Canelo are both interested in the belts. You have to face up to the fact that Canelo is not the second coming of Floyd, who could generate 1 million buys against the likes of Robert Guerrero.
     
  9. Uppercut_Artist

    Uppercut_Artist Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Your reading comprehension sucks, OR,
    Your attempts to mislead or redirect or very weak.
    Either way, you got that mental thang!
     
  10. Loudon

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    I'm saying that in my honest opinion, his viewing figures of only 97k are now over, no matter who he fights from now.

    The first Cotto match did 900,000 buys, so a rematch wouldn't do anywhere near a million. I think interest would dwindle.

    I think we both know Floyd won't fight him again.

    Unless he fights Manny, GG will be his biggest payday by far. There's no reason for Oscsr to be greedy.
     
  11. The Shockmaster

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    Andre ward has a deal with Nike and his own apparel too....so what does that prove ?

    There are 30 threads a day about floyd and he's retired .......and only one, between ggg and Canelo, has been in the ring with the king

    If ggg were as big as u think the money would be there and he'd have good fights ....plain and simple
     
  12. The Shockmaster

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    Hbo will not put ggg on ppv again unless he's fighting csnelo or the ward kova winner ....it'd that simple ....so he won't get that chance to surpass 97k without them
     
  13. Uppercut_Artist

    Uppercut_Artist Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Canelo has many, many options. Far more than Golovkin.
    Be real. At this late stage of his career, Golovkin is in the DESPERATE position of needing to justify his very existence by finally fighting a true top ranked and top talented opponent. Golovkin has avoided fighting competitive fights to the point where he cannot do it any more, or suffer PPV numbers even worst than his previous and pitiful 97K high.
    Golovkin now is the sad position of needing a Hopkins, Lara, Ward, or Canelo fight to convince the majority of boxing fans that he is not an empty, hyped vessel of a fighter.
    All of the above fighters need Golovkin less than Golovkin needs them.

    K2 should start to finally comprehend that the US market is not at all like the German market. The Klits are all spoiled with their Mercedes, BMW and high end multi-million dollar endorsements that they are blind to what it takes to win in the US boxing market, which is probably why the klits failed completely to succeed in the US.

    Golovkin is a nobody, but being a nobody doesn't excuse you for being a dunce. I suggest K2 send their employees to a US versus German based business classes and hopefully they will quit whining, smarten up and accept GBP's offer.
     
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  14. Loudon

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    What do you mean they don't count?

    Why do you let yourself down in this manner?

    Brook had only fought Porter and didn't have a big fan base.

    GG hadn't got a great resume, and he was coming off of fighting Lemieux and Wade.

    Yet despite the above, 500,000 tuned in officially, (again with many more watching unofficially) to see what all the fuss was about.

    They were great figures considering the factors that I've mentioned.

    The guy who you ridicule as "Mr 97k" has just taken home $5m.

    I don't know if others have mentioned 50/50, but I certainly haven't. I've always said that Canelo deserves more. But again, there's no logical reason as to why Oscar can't sit down to discuss a percentage. If you support that, you are being completely biased.
     
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  15. dinovelvet

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    Team Canelo aren't inclined to move up and give the bigger GGG a payday when he refused point blank to do the same against Ward.
    Ive never witnessed a guy chase so many lower divisional guys before. People want to see guys chase fights against guys at higher weights , not lower weights.
    Even the WBO don't like the cut of his jib. His desperation is as bad as a disgruntled ex you can't shake off.
     
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