GGG Canelo reminiscent of Kova Ward 2

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  1. tee_birch

    tee_birch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Does anyone see certain similarities between the two.

    Now I'm not saying that it will be as easy for Canelo to get GGG out of there as the man has a steel chin but i think all the anger and unease at being a small cog in a bigger wheel is grating on him and going into the fight angry may be counter productive and work against him.

    It may work well for him but he hasn't been angry in the lead up to his other fights so surely the change in a mindset that has worked his whole career adds a question mark going in to the fight
     
  2. MeatFeastMan

    MeatFeastMan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Forget 'it won't be easy'. Change it to 'it will never ever ever happen'. GGG is not falling to the canvas. Forget it. He's never been down, amateur or professional. Can't see that changing.

    Canelo can't be dirty against GGG like Ward was against Kovalev, because GGG couldn't care less about dirty tactics. He'll still just come forward and demolish you no matter what, because he is the true meaning of a warrior.
     
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  3. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Well, Kovalev-Ward was a close 114-113, 115-112 type affair. With Ward figuring Kovalev out around the 6th, and carried those adjustments into the rematch. Canelo won 2, 3 maybe 4 rounds at best, and even the rounds he won, they weren't demonstrative rounds, they were 55/45 type rounds, with GGG giving as good as he got. Canelo didn't figure a damn thing out. The guy with room for improvement here is GGG, what we just saw was Canelo at his absolute best..... and that version wasn't good enough to beat Golovkin.
     
  4. panchman69

    panchman69 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yeah Ward took over the first kovalev fight after the 4th round, and ggg took over the canelo fight aftee the 4th round. So a ggg stoppage is not out of the question for the 2nd fight.
     
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  5. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Even if you believe Canelo only won 2, 3 or maybe 4 rounds at best (though the judges had him winning 5, 6 and 10 rounds but putting that aside), surely many people thought Ward only won 2, 3 or 4 as well and most people would probably say that the rounds Ward won in the first fight were 55/45 kinds of rounds as well.

    So I do think there are some similarities between the two fights. Plenty of people thought Kovalev won the first fight, and many people thought he won it pretty clearly. Similarly plenty of people thought Golovkin won the first fight and many people thought he won it pretty clearly.

    So in that sense there are similarities in that many people, especially on this forum, did not believe Canelo or Ward deserved the victory. (that they didn't win enough rounds clearly, like what you are saying about Canelo)
     
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  6. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I don't think that's what the OP is saying becuase he's talking about how likely it is for Canelo to get GGG out of there, and it sounds like he's talking about GGG could go into the rematch angry which could be counter productive and work against him, possibly making it more likely for Canelo to get GGG out of there similarly to how Kovalev fought the rematch and Ward was able to capitalize on Kovalev trying to be over aggressive, trying too hard to win rounds after losing a decision in the first fight.

    A lot of times we've seen fighters get in trouble in rematches after a close first decision. RJJ Tarver 2 for example. RJJ barely won the first fight and in the rematch got caught trying to win rounds more convincingly than he did in the first fight. A similar thing happened in Ward Kovalev 2 with Kovalev trying to impress the judges too much, staying in punching range too long and getting hurt.
     
  7. tee_birch

    tee_birch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It's not so much the KO I'm talking about. GGG is a tough tough man, i meant he isn't going to lie down as easily as Kov did (IMO)

    I meant the similarities in getting emotionally involved in the build up (in an out of character way for GGG) and wondered if it could prove to be detrimental.
     
  8. GK BOX

    GK BOX Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think Canelo is dead meat in the rematch
    he cant juice no more
    ggg is mad
    i think canelo gets stopped here
     
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  9. N17

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    Assuming Canelo is clean, because he will always be under suspicion now, I am interested to see if there is any difference in Canelo in the rematch.
     
  10. Dagnaldinho

    Dagnaldinho Active Member Full Member

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    Canelo is not even close too Ward and Golovkin is better than Kovalev.

    No comparison
     
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  11. GK BOX

    GK BOX Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    there absolutely has to be
    plus canelo looking a bit heavy with the fight only 6 weeks away
    wouldnt surprise me if he misses weight and cant fight for the titles
    i wonder if the wbc makes an exception for canelo this time lol
    the 161.45 pounds middlewight once in a decade title
     
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  12. N17

    N17 Loyal Member Full Member

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    Well if he has to actually really work that weight off and struggles then it raises all sorts of questions.

    Lol the WBC they will probably already have a set of "Canelo Scales" on standby.

    On these "Canelo Scales" Golovkin will weigh in as a Junior Middleweight.
     
  13. Farmboxer

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    Hopkins let the cat out of the bag when he said that El Pollo will fight Golovkin exactly like SOB Ward did against Kovalev, go to the body, which is code for testicle blows! There is video on Youtube of El Pollo practicing low blows in the gym, we all know that Tony Weeks claims low blows are legal. Golovkin needs to insist on neutral judges, referee, such are Pabon who would not allow SOB like testicle blows to Golovkin, and Golovkin should wear a cup with shock absorbers built into it!!! VADA cleared Povetkin, yet the WBC would not allow Povetkin to fight Wilder, yet El pollo tested positive two times for PEDS and that is OK with the WBC! One hell of a double standard!
     
  14. covetousjuice

    covetousjuice Putin did nothing wrong

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    I thought Ward won both fights and thought Golovkin edged his.

    Golovkin looked pretty bad to me, but he still edged it.

    I’m very concerned about the rematch. Golovkin will be even older and I’m not sure he’ll adopt the best strategy. It sounds like he’ll be trying desperately for a knockout and may take that too far.
     
  15. Farmboxer

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    Warning: El Pollo has been practicing low blows in the gym, there is even video proof of it, I think it was on Youtube..........Hopkins said that El Pollo was going to fight Golovkin in the rematch exactly like Ward did against Kovalev, yes, body blows, which means that El Pollo will land low blows and Oscar's personal referee will allow El Pollo to do it, just like Tony Weeks did SOB Ward.............do not allow Tony Weeks or some other crook like Lawrence Cole to referee the fight, Vegas judges and referees are corrupt. Pabon would be neutral, he will not allow El Pollo to land low blows to the testicles! Vegas will be for El Pollo, the judges, commission, referee unless neutral ones are required! El Pollo should be punished for PEDS, look what they did to Povetkin! Even after VADA cleared Povetkin! Again, El Pollo will throw low blows to the testicles, be ready for them, better insist on a neutral referee such as Pabon.............and get judges from Canada, Russia, one from America, not Vegas, Vegas judges are corrupt as we have seen throughout the years. Byrd was a disgrace and should have been banned! CALL: 702-486-2575 and tell Bob Bennett and his Nevada Boxing Commission what you want neutral judges, referee or you will never buy a Vegas fight again! I have called and complained, so can you!!!