Derevyanchenko is a very good, borderline great fighter. He probably could beat Saunders, but it wouldn't be a walk in the park. Prime Saunders (David Lemieux version) outboxes him. Canelo version of Saunders is hard to say who would win, but I doubt Dere could stop Saunders like Canelo did.
The first one isn't even up for debate? Sure bud. What sport do you think this is? Canelo outboxed GGG rounds 1-4, out slugged him 10-12. 5 and 6 are debatable. That's what happened. GGG received very favorable scoring the first time for coming forward all night and throwing more punches. He may have outlanded Canelo that night, with glazing glancing mostly non-effective stuff but he didn't outland him in terms of heavy clean punching. Reason why so many people claim GGG was robbed is simply because they expected GGG to win, not only to win but to dominate, and that didn't happen. So to save face after their bold predictions that didn't pan out, people act like GGG was robbed because they couldn't accept what happened, they couldn't admit that they were wrong about what would happen when GGG fought Canelo. I don't need you to admit to me what we both know to be true, I know you won't. Doesn't matter. Canelo out performed GGG both times and out landed him when it comes to impactful, effective clean eye catching shots. That's what matters. Not GGG's largely ineffective volume punching the first time or his weak jabbing the 2nd time.
I would be embarrassed to say Canelo out performed GGG in the first fight. Also Canelo dont deserve 10 -12 just because he did better than he did in the previous 6 that he lost. He lost 10 and 11 too. I give him the 12th though. GGG may school him this time too, the odds are against him it seems though.
I don't know why Canelo is being criticized for not fighting Dere. Oh right because he was the mandatory. But he was only made the mandatory by the IBF to force Canelo's hand. Canelo had already beaten Jacobs who had beaten Dere. It was more important to fight Jacobs than to fight Dere, the man who beat Dere, which he did. Canelo vs Dere would have been a tough fight, but Kovalev at 175 was a much tougher fight and a much bigger challenge for him. Even a past prime Kovalev. You can't really criticize Canelo for not fighting Dere when he already beat the man who beat him and took on a much bigger challenge in Kovalev instead. It's also ridiculous to think that Canelo himself ducked Dere, it was clearly a failed negotiation between GB and Lou DiBella. Canelo was clearly not happy with GB for causing him to be stripped which resulted in him firing DLH.
You state things as fact that are not factual. GGG lost 10-12 on all 3 judges cards. It's not some rogue judge who scored those for Canelo on their own. He came out like a bat outta hell in Round 10, won that round in the first minute, then backpeddled for much of the rest of the round making it impossible for GGG to equal what Canelo did in the first minute. 11th was closer than 12 but still a Canelo round. GGG doing marginally better and "keeping it close" isn't enough to win a round. You don't seem to know what you're watching, watching the fight with GGG beer goggles on is no excuse. After 5 years you had plenty of time to review the footage and understand what happened. GGG schooling Canelo is a pretty funny idea, but there's nothing wrong with dreaming big. Realistically that's very unlikely, but then again people say Bivol schooled him when no such thing happened. People like to exaggerate when opponents have success against Canelo. It's pretty insane to me, but par for the course around here. It's a result of being in a state of delusion.
I wasn't sharing my opinion but rather removing the typos from what that other guy was trying to say. I think he'd probably agree with what you're saying in this post, though
There was alot of risk but low reward. Styles make fights and if Canelo struggled against Derev that wouldn't have looked good.
Canelo came out barely ahead after the first minute of round 10, after that Canelo ran and got slapped around like the previous 6, by the rounds end GGG had passed him up.
Sorry, GGG is 40,and 40 years olds boxers are supposed to lose to the pfp best. That's what Canelo is claiming. The past fights are history, but if Canelo loses to the forty year old, thats another story. Only problem is the 40 year old has to win by KO or a beat down which isn't completely out of the question.