GGG fans obsessed with Alvarez, don't u want see him rule his division & fight top guys at 160?

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  1. El Gallo Negro

    El Gallo Negro Active Member banned Full Member

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    Charlo and Andrade if he's a real champion?

    GGG really needs to focus on his own division if he wants to be taken seriously as a champion and supposed ATG.

    Even Canelo was a smaller guy moving up to fight him.

    The only time GGs ever faced a top true middleweight was against Jacob's, a fight that was very close in my estimation and probably warranted a rematch (since GG thinks it's his God given right to run it back as many times as he wishes, he should extend that opportunity to others).

    everyone seems to think Deverynchenko is the second coming of Bennie Briscoe....I dont why exactly, but I'll give you that one for arguments sake....so that's two real, top middleweights in what, like 20 defenses?

    he's been straight ducking my man Charlo and Andrade for years and his fans are oddly silent about it...

    wouldnt a decisive win over both those guys do more for his legacy then another 12 round slap fight with Alvarez would?
     
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    Why don't Andrade and Charlo fight each other? GGG is at the end of his career, I don't blame him for not fighting Andrade or Charlo. He doesn't need to - one more fight against Canelo to cash out and retire.

    In his prime GGG was the most avoided fighter on the planet. BJS even admitted in an interview he didn't want to fight Golovkin.

    The part of your post I do agree with is that a lot of Golovkin's defences weren't against top tier opponents, but I would say that that wasn't entirely his fault.
     
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  3. Pakkuman

    Pakkuman I'm not hot. I'm just BIG. banned Full Member

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    :lol: @ Clenelo was the smaller guy
     
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    Nah. Not a GGG or Canelo fan, but there is definitely unfinished business there. Golovkin should have won the 1st bout. I can see a case for a win for either guy in the 2nd. Even a draw there. The 1st being a draw was far more egregious. That was a Golovkin win.

    At this point, I think Canelo realizes he can bang with GGG, and actually wins wider, but he needs to stop the act as if he already owns a definitive win, and doesn’t have anything to prove against Golovkin. He does.
     
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  5. El Gallo Negro

    El Gallo Negro Active Member banned Full Member

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    another reason I could care less about GG Alvarez 3

    the whole mentality of 'I dont need to defend my belt against the best, I'm just owed my cash out fight against Canelo '

    with that type of attitude he owes it to boxing to relinquish his belt. let him chase Canelo off a cliff for all I care, but he shouldnt hold the middleweight division down hostage in the meantime. especially if he's not trying to fight nobody
     
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    I dint know if you know this, but he moved up from Jr Middle to fight GG
     
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    One can argue that G lost to Dereyvenchenko. You are correct, G should be fighting Charlo and Andrade. No excuses! Or he should put pressure on Charlo and Andrade to fight each other and he faces the winner.
     
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    How is he holding the division hostage? Canelo holds the WBA title at middleweight but his last two fights have been at 175 and 168. GGG just fought his mandatory too.

    Andrade and Charlo could also stop complaining and just fight each other instead?
     
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    I would be more interested if GG had been taking care of business since they fought but he hasnt.

    I'm sorry but just because you had a close fight with someone nearly 5 years ago doesnt mean they need to keep fighting you until your satisfied, especially when you have been doing jack in the meantime and the other guy has been all over the place dominating and KOing top rated guys
     
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  10. Pakkuman

    Pakkuman I'm not hot. I'm just BIG. banned Full Member

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    Clenelo was draining down to stay at 154/155 (CleneloWeight). Clenelo was the bigger, heavier guy on fight night.
     
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  11. BCS8

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    Clenelo fans still trying to make the case that ginger doesn't have to finish the trilogy and can go back to fighting bums and stacked fights :lol:
     
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  12. Heavy_Hitter

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    What you don't understand is that most people who hate Canelo don't hate him because they are GGG fans.They hate him because he is a cheating dishonest person. Steroids, judges, cherry picking, robberies etc...
     
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  13. El Gallo Negro

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    stack Alvarez record side by side with GG and then talk to me about cherry picking
     
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    El Gallo Negro Active Member banned Full Member

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    why does Canelo owe him anything? he ran it back with GG and GG was even less impressive the second go round.

    GG has been owing Danny Jacobs a rematch for years
     
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  15. BCS8

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    Because a lot of people think Canelo lost both fights.
    Canelo --> :couch:
     
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