GGG Finally Speaks On Robbery: I Wasn't The One Getting Booed When I Walked Out of the Ring!!!

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I put my scores on a boxing scorecard app but didnt save it. I dont want to put which rounds i scored for who off the top of my head because im sure there will be a round or two that i will get wrong and i dont need the pundits on here jumping all over me on a round that was clearly for one fighter or the other.

 

Oh well you said you rewatched it a few days ago and I just wanted to know which rounds you thought were so clear for Golovkin. I didn't see many clear rounds for Golovkin at all. In supposedly Golovkin's best round, round 7, Sanchez was chewing G out in the corner for giving away the last part of the round after getting hit with a massive uppercut by Canelo and several jabs. (in a round that Canelo had a great first minute of the round, before Golovkin started asserting himself in the 2nd minute)

To say that a fighter won a fight so clearly, there needs to be more clear rounds for that fighter and there just weren't many clear rounds for Golovkin. Now granted, there weren't that many clear rounds for Canelo either, most rounds were pretty tightly contested which is why the clear takeaway from the first fight is that the winner wasn't all that clear. You watched the fight live, you simply didn't know who was going to win. You may have thought that G deserved to edge it, or expected a robbery or something, but when that bell rung after 12 rounds you did not know who was going to win. It just wasn't a fight that had a clear no doubt about it victor. Many of the rounds were like splitting hairs, and I'm always fascinated to hear how somebody had Golovkin winning so clearly in a fight that was so tightly contested.

 

Very fair assessment. You basically explained my case for me. "Golovkin's best round, round 7, Sanchez was chewing G out in the corner for giving away the last part of the round after getting hit with a massive uppercut by Canelo and several jabs."
Thats the reason i thought GGG was the clear winner. There were far too many rounds that played out like that so i thought GGG was the clear winner. Canelo would have his moment in rounds but itd be after doing very little for about 2 minutes of most rounds. i believe i had the fight 8-4 GGG. Now i agree round by round some rounds were close but imho Canelos lack of work lost him the round and once you start adding up the rounds it becomes clear to me atleast that GGG won the fight.

 

All the on-line polls had Golovkin clearly winning, but only Oscar's judges count! The boxing fans know when they are cheated and they were cheated along with Golovkin, yes, you could clearly heard them boo the decision and they booed El Pollo..................

 

What I was getting at was in Round 7, which was probably Golovkin's best round with what he was able to do in the middle of the round, you still had Canelo making it very close with quality punching, too close for Sanchez seeing as he scolded G in the corner after the round for how he finished the round. So it wasn't really a situation of Golovkin winning rounds clearly, or dominating rounds. Despite how well he did in Round 7, he didn't punctuate the round and Sanchez was not happy with how he finished that round.

It sounds to me that you're giving Golovkin close round after closer round and ending up with an 8-4 score. But if you scored those close rounds the other way, you could easily end up with 8-4 Canelo based on hard clean punching, causing some of G's landed punches to only land glancingly, etc. And regarding some of G's punches only landing glancingly, that wasn't really the case in Round 7, in that round G was landing that jab forcefully, and Canelo was not able to slip those shots as well as the other rounds. FYI I scored Round 7 to Golovkin, but it wasn't all that clear that he won it with how Canelo started and finished the round.

For Golovkin to win the fight clearly, in my estimation he would have needed to actually win more rounds convincingly. (meaning not getting hit with such big punches, even if Canelo didn't have the work rate in those middle rounds, Canelo's punches were still better and in pro boxing you can win rounds with quality over quantity) Even if, like you said, that Canelo's lack of work in the middle rounds caused Golvokin to win in your eyes, that's a very fair assessment, however I don't see how that's a clear win overall, since by your own admission Canelo was having his moments even in Golvokin's best rounds. Those Canelo moments even while fighting off the backfoot made those rounds debatable. That's really the biggest proof that it wasn't a clear Golovkin win. He was letting Canelo get in too much flashy offensive, even when he was controlling the action, Canelo was still having too many moments, G would be on his way to winning rounds, but then would get too over-confident and would walk into big punches, causing the round to be up for grabs again (big uppercuts, big rights, etc) in those middle rounds that most people thought Golovkin won.

Even if you give Golovkin all those middle rounds, it's still arguably a draw if you give Canelo 1-3 & 10-12. Then you have Round 4 which I thought Canelo edged it. That was yet another toss up round in my view that nearly everyone gave to Golovkin simply because he did better in that round than in Round 1-3. (and I think people having G winning that round has a lot to do with Canelo staying on the ropes for an extended period of time)

I don't think there's anything wrong with your score, I just personally don't see how G winning was all that clear. For G to win clearly, he needed to punctuate those rounds, he needed to avoid getting hit with big punches in the rounds that most people thought he won. (like in rounds 6-9) Judges take note of moments when a guy gets rocked, a big punch or two can offset superior work rate and be enough to swing a round.

 

In pro boxing the object of the game is to hurt your opponent more than your opponent hurts you. Hit and not be hit.

Since judges can't feel what fighters are feeling they use a few different visual factors to score rounds.

Whos landed the harder cleaner punches more consistently.

Who took less damage by using tactics that neutralizes his opponents offense more.

Who was commanded the ring.

And whos aggression was more effective.

If you use the proper scoring method you can't deny that Canelo won in defense, Canelo clearly landed the cleaner harder punches more consistently.

Ring generalship is where the fight is close. Canelo clearly fought his fight in rounds 1-3, and in rounds 4-9 Golovkin fought his, in roundd 10-12 Canelo was more effective landing the harder cleaner punches again, while GGG was following him around the ring getting countered with big shots.

While there were rounds where GGG was effective with his mostly jabs, he did miss nearly 70% of his punches. Doesn't seem very effective.

Removing any bias this fight could have been anyones. I scored it 7-5 and with maybe some bias either way I can see how 8-4 either way is possible. Ultimately a draw was the decision and it was a good and justified.

The fight was so close that after second watches many who scored it for GGG the first time are saying Canelo should win the rematch.

Regardless of what rounds you scored for GGG I assure you a solid arguemnt can be made that Canelo could have be awarded a couple of them because they were that close. Same with Canelo's rounds, despite him landing the cleaner punches GGGs work rate and jab allowed him to score against Canelo and he too can be argued he won some rounds awarded to Canelo.

8-4, 7-5, either way and 6-6 are all reasonable scores.

My unbias perspective.

 

I dont see it as close as you do. I cant give a guy rounds for walking around for 2 minutes. You yourself have GGG winning atleast 6 rounds. I think anyone unbiased as you say sees GGG won atleast that many rounds.

 

I gave GGG 5 rounds. I thought he won in ring generalship in at least 6 rounds. But there are also 3 other factors to consider when scoring fights.

It was a close fight and many who scored it for GGG the first time are predicting Canelo to win the rematch.

 

So? Not sure why you keep bringing this up. A lot of people thought Kovalev was going to knock ward out too the second time around.

 

I bring it up because at first watch people gave GGG credit for landing his measuring jab. After another watch people realize Canelo is the one who csn make adjustments.