GGG Finally Speaks On Robbery: I Wasn't The One Getting Booed When I Walked Out of the Ring!!!

Well the difference is pretty obvious : most of the fighters Canelo have fought have been boxers who fight off the backfoot, move away, aren't the aggressor, etc. (Trout, Lara, Mayweather, Cotto, Khan) Obviously the tactics were different because he was fighting a come forward fighter for a change. You wouldn't fight a mover like Lara the same way you would fight a come forward pressure fighter like Golovkin would you? Vs boxers naturally Canelo is gonna come forward more, vs pressure fighters he's gonna be less aggressor and use his movement more.

The reason he would opt to fight so defensively and off the back foot is due to the style opponent he was facing. Yes of course part of that is to negate Golovkin's power, I've never denied Golovkin has power, all I'm saying is the effect of his power didn't show up against Canelo because he was never able to land anything big or damaging on Canelo. You argued the result of his power was shown vs Canelo. No it wasn't, because Canelo didn't let Golovkin's power become an issue. The way he fought negated Golovkin's power, not the other way around.

The backing up resulted in well placed landed punches that were better than anything Golovkin landed, so in that sense it wasn't excessive, because he wouldn't have been able to get those shots off had he not been retreating when he did. He was fighting a come forward fighter, so naturally it makes sense to be less of an aggressor and use more movement vs an aggressor to frustrate the aggressor.

The rematch should be more entertaining, having already gone 12 rounds with Golovkin should give him more confidence that he can build on the success from the first fight. But I think we're gonna see a better version of Golovkin this time around, I think both men will be better versions of themselves.

The narrative isn't that he lost lol, that's you're narrative, the narrative is that Byrd had it too wide, that Canelo didn't win as easily as she thought he did. The narrative is that the fight was too close to call and we need a rematch to determine who the better fight is. I thought Canelo proved he was the better fighter in the first fight because he landed the harder punches, outboxed Golovkin, landed more body shots, was never hurt by Golovkin's much hyped power, had more energy in the championship rounds, etc etc etc but I just don't think he was convincing enough and he made some tactical mistakes in the middle rounds letting Golovkin back into a fight he was in command of in the early rounds. Of course I'd expect you to disagree with much of this, but that's what makes these exchanges so fun and entertaining.

 

If you want an example of what I am referring to, look at the uppercut Canelo landed with 41 seconds left in the 8th round. Some of his most impactful punches were when he was backing up, when Golvokin was walking forward, he'd land big punches while Golovkin was walking towards him, like that one in the 8th round. Take a look yourself, you can't miss it.

 

True ....it makes him hold himself real tight

 

One punch doesn't make an entire fight

 

t's definitely true, because Judith over on Mumsnet read it on her sister's Facebook page, and her husband's five-a-side goalie works for the council, so he'd know.

Whatever happened to critical thinking?

 

I just threw a snowball at Amir Khan.. Knocked him clean out!

 

Even with fighters like Chavez Jr and James Kirkland who are pressure fights Canelo didn’t fight the way he did with Golovkin.

Canelo fought an overly defensive fight against GGG. It was very unbalanced. His backing up allowed GGG to consistently control all measurable aspects of the fight. Alvarez did have limited success which was never sustained. They were flashes of pristine execution but never enough to wrestle control away from Golovkin.

GGG’s power may not have looked like it impacted Alvarez the way it did with lesser opponents but his body language and tactics revealed Canelo felt something that kept him in retreat mode vs taking over and pushing for the knockout.

The narrative is not mine, it’s the overwhelming number of fans that say he lost. I just happen to agree with 85 to 90% of the population. 5 to 10% of those who were polled or weighed in felt it was too close to call but that is a minuscule number and insignificant.

 

We have very different perspectives of the first fight and what each of us considers "control", but it was very apparent that Canelo had full control of the bout until the 2nd half of the 5th round when Golovkin managed to catch him on the ropes and seized control of that round in the final minute. Up until that point, over the first 4 and a half rounds, it was very clearly Canelo who had control of the fight. Then G wrestled control away from Canelo with that rally at the end of the 5th, and G tried to sustain that control in rounds 6-9 which he did to an extent over those rounds, but not as consistently as you'd like to believe because Canelo was still managing to get in his offense which had harder impact than Golovkin's punches to keep those rounds close.

What you're describing as far as pristine execution "but not enough" from Canelo sounds like the big shots Canelo was able to land while fighting off the backfoot in rounds 6-9. In those rounds what you're saying is pretty accurate, but not in the early rounds and not in the late rounds either. He did fight more cautiously vs Golovkin than he did vs Chavez or Kirkland, especially in the early rounds. However so did Golovkin, Golovkin fought more cautiously vs Canelo than he usually does. It wasn't really until the middle rounds, particularly the 5th that Golvokin really started getting into the fight and fighting his usual style. Both fighters were more cautious of each other than in their past fights due to the increase skill and danger that the other possesses.

While it's true that Canelo was more cautious generally, with how much more he moved away from Golovkin than he usually does his opponents, he did stay on the ropes in the 4th and the 5th far longer than you'd expect an overly cautious fighter to do. (which was supposed to be a big no-no vs Golovkin) And he didn't fight too cautiously in the last 3 rounds either.

Canelo's body language revealed that he respected Golovkin's power and he took a cautious approach, that much is true. Golovkin's body language early on in the bout revealed that he respected Canelo's counter punching ability and he didn't come forward as much as he usually does. Golovkin did not look like the knockout artist hell bent on destruction that he was hyped to be in those early rounds. Golovkin looked out of sorts and part of that was confusion by Canelo's movement.

The 85% - 90% number of the population is really a made up number based on a small sample size of fans you are encountering on the internet. I'm not denying that the majority appear to have Golovkin winning, but there are reasons for that which I've discussed before.

The main reason why people had Golovkin winning is because naturally fans decided to split the early rounds when in all reality Canelo should have won the first 4 rounds. He was in complete control of Golovkin in those rounds, but the rounds were relatively close, close enough for you to give Golovkin one or two of those rounds. But they were pretty clear Canelo rounds when you really look at what was landed and the body language. Fans have a tendency to split early rounds that are relatively close in big fights. Canelo didn't dominate those early rounds, but he was getting the better of Golovkin but most fans seem to give Golovkin 1 or 2 of those early rounds which is critical to him winning, because then if you give him 5-9 while ignoring Canelo's big shots in those rounds he wins the fight on the cards.

If the fight wasn't too close to call, if it was clear who the better fighter was after the first fight, then I doubt there would be a need for a rematch. The fact that so many favor Canelo in the rematch suggests that the first fight was too close to call, or at least it wasn't as clear as you and many would like to believe. Even Teddy Atlas and Malignaggi who had the widest for Triple G, have made statements quite to the contrary of that score. Atlas after his ridiculous 10-2 Byrd-esque Triple G card did a complete 180 and recently came out and said that Canelo could win the rematch "easy". These types of statements reveal uncertainty of the mind in regards to who won the first fight, who is the better fighter, etc.

Whatever you think you're proving by typing 5%-10% had it too close to call or that you're in the 85%-90% popular crowd / overwhelming majority, this is very flawed thinking. Those %s are based on extremely small samples sizes vs the overall population who saw the fight and many of those people that make up those %s have agendas for Golovkin or against Canelo. If saying that makes you feel better then do whatever makes you happy, but those %s do not represent the overall population in any way shape or from, and if you have to cite %s like that, it screams confirmation bias and tells me that you're not too confident in what you think you saw.

 

GGG can go 49-0-1 and isal would still hate him

 

I saw and scored the fight a couple days ago and again i had it CLEARLY for GGG. Canelo fought in spurts like he always does then spent the rest of the time just moving away from GGG catching jabs and right hooks to the face for most of the rounds. Adelaide Birdbrain should absolutely never judge a big fight ever again. 118-110 for CAnelo is absolutely INSANE!!!

 

Which rounds did you give to Canelo / Triple G ? Which were the hardest rounds to score in your estimation?

 

Golovkin landed more punches, he was the aggressor, he made the fight, if not for Golovkin, there would have been no fight at all. I also heard the crowd boo El Pollo like hell! Nacho Beristain had Golovkin winning, so did Harold Lederman, so did Paulie, so did I. Good thing for El Pollo that Oscar owned the judges..............

 

GGG definitely had control over the fight with Alvarez. There’s really no debate. The validation is in the numbers and the overwhelming consensus calling the fight for Golovkin. It really wasn’t a hard fight to score. There’s some outliers that lean towards seeing the fight in a way that a small segment of Canelo fans claimed the fight was closer than it actually was.

Some fans actually felt Chavez beat Whitaker or at the very least, claimed he deserved a draw....same thing with Holyfield in the draw he was gifted with in his fight with Lewis.

Polling is actually a science. There’s no debate that polling sample audiences are an accurate depiction of what the overall consensus feels on any given subject. Especially when there are multiple polls from various independent outlets.

There were only a few rounds between GGG and Alvarez that were close enough to give Canelo. Like I mentioned before, Canelo did well in spots but the majority of the fight in every Individual round GGG was dictating all measurable aspects of the fight. Winning 30 seconds to a minute in a round doesn’t eclipse the other 2 to 2:30 minutes of the round.

The need for the rematch stems from the controversial outcome. Same as the demand for the Lewis/Holyfield rematch. The fans demanded the rematch take place even though Lewis was clearly the winner. The rematch between GGG and Canelo is no different. Most everyone had Golovkin winning and the draw verdict was perceived as a robbery benefiting the more popular boxer in Alvarez.

The more well know and popular boxer have a lot more fans who have a bigger agenda to push....but when the outcome is so blatantly bias even the fans of the more popular fighter won’t defend or put themselves out there to defend their guy knowing it would make them look irrational. That’s why most of the Canelo fans in attendance boo’d Alvarez or said GGG beat their guy when interviewed.

It doesn’t make me feel better to stat the obvious or recognize facts. It is what it is. I know it stings and is a hard pill to swallow for ardent Alvarez fans who are having a difficult time accepting GGG was the better fighter and won the fight in the first meeting, but that’s why those same fans are eagerly anticipating the rematch hoping Alvarez can put on a much better performance. I hope he can as well. He’s better than what he showed against Golovkin the first time around. I just don’t know if it will be enough to actually get the W even if he makes the necessary adjustments.

 

you know, I a not impressed with this. For 30something fights 3G has never complained about his opposition.

but now he is held to a draw, he complains, and it stinks of sour grapes. For the first time ever, hes not being a good boy. something has changed in his personality, and he needs to get his feet on the ground again.

 

unlike you, who can clearly start a fight with yourself without any issue.

i mean wtf does that mean, without two people there would be no fight.